WHERE ARE ALL OF THE CARRIERS?

I cant speak for all markets, but in Central Texas, when belly dumps are grossing north of $2,000 a day, it just doesnt make sence to be doing anything else.... and when I do inquire on a load, the broker gives me the silent treatment whenever I tell them what rate id do the job for. Soo belt is parked, belly dump is roling, 6 days a week

My cost on a new dump and tractor set up with all that I need to give you great service new truck and trailer is $326k plus insurance, plates and a quality driver. Then throw in $5.30 per gal fuel on 6mpg. It's plain and simple math that you should have learned back in grade school. Show me $6.15 a loaded mile and I will show you a truck.

@everyone - This is actually Bill Peterson making the post. I share this account with Scott. Please email me: [email protected] or text/call: 315-868-4537.

@ethan - I completely understand that timing is everything. A lot of my lanes are for loads moving that week. However, some of them are ongoing.

@josh - Some of the shippers that I represent have not increased their rates as fuel has increased because, 1) people are still moving the loads at low rates, 2) the commodity is only worth so much. I am not the broker that is ripping off carriers. My approach is to reach out to carriers to see where they need to be on a load, and then I go back to the shipper and tell them I can move 'X' amount of loads for 'X' amount per ton. I am adding my rate on top of what the driver tells me that they need. Unfortunately, there are some shippers that understand, and others that don't. If you want to reach out, then I would be glad to see if I can get you running again on some good freight.

@kyler - Do you have a high side hopper?

@matt - all of my loads are on the East side of the US (draw a line from the West side of Wisconsin, all the way down the US). Email, call, or text, and we can work together.

@Rose - I have some Dry Van work in and around TX and CA. What area do you cover?

@Michael MCanulty - I hear ya. There is a lot of dump work in TX. I have been trying to get some hopper work covered around Houston, TX. Do you know any hoppers looking for work?

@Michael Barone - I can understand that. You seem like a nice, level-headed guy. Please email, call, or text, and maybe we can come together on some loads.

@Ken - I understand where you are coming from. Correct me if I am wrong...$326k tractor & trailer - payment would be about $6,500 with decent credit. Let's say $10k for insurance, tags, etc. Average miles driven per day of 400. 67 gallons of fuel x $5.30 = $355.10. 400 miles x $0.25 = $100 per day maintenance. Based on 20 days per month...$9,102 per month for fuel and maintenance + $7,334 = $16436 monthly expenses. That means you need to make $821.80 per day to break even. So to break even, with new equipment, you would need to charge $2.06 per mile. Now let's add a salary of $78,000 ($25/hr x 12 hours per day x 5 days per week x 52 weeks). That adds $300 per day. Now we are at $1,122 per day, which means you have to charge $2.81 per mile to break even, and make $78k per year, which is more than most Americans will ever see. Let's say you want to make $100k per year, because I would, if I wasn't going to see my family all week. $32.06 per hour x 12 hours x 5 days per week x 52 weeks = $100,027.20. Now you need to make $1,206.52 per day, which is $3.07 per mile. Just FYI...I am fighting for carriers to get paid $3.50-$4 per mile. With all that being said, I am not sure why you need $6.15 per loaded mile. Asking for $6.15 per loaded mile is how I get shippers to not answer my phone calls/emails. Don't get me wrong, short runs are a lot different. It's also a lot different if there is a backhaul, or if there are multiple loads per day.

400 miles a day?! How would anyone get anything acomplished? I shoot for 600/day. Ins, tags, etc is over 20k a year, not 10k. Workers comp is around 3600/yr. Back office employee are 70-80k a year each depepnding on company size as to how many. Maintance is $.20/mile minimum ( tires are pushing $600/piece now, engine oil is almost $40/gal for non synthetic 60/gal for some synthetics, shop rates are approaching $200/hr). I can't hire a driver for $25/hr unless he/she is home nightly. I could go on.... So as a carrier yes $6-6.15 is needed. Or 4.75-5.00+FSC on long tgerm contracts. I do some ocassional shuttle work in dry vans for a chemical company, that gets charged @$170/hr from the time truck leaves lot till drive sets the brakes and goes home.

For a local truck running in less than a 100 mile radius, farm tags, this could be true. I would think most guys on here are probably insured for 500 miles and apportioned tags.

Tags, 2290 is going to be approx $2000. Insurance (pending your physical damage amounts) is going to be all over $15-20k per year or more per unit.

Average miles a day of 400? Maybe on the haul A to B. Don't forget you have to bounce and reload.

There's more discrepancies but I'm not digging into things any further.

If the man wants $6.15 per mile, that's his choice. After 22 years of being in logistics, it still ticks me off its an industry where people accept being told what they'll be paid.

3.07 one way don't sound to good truck don't find load coming back home that means he only got 1.53 that means cheaper stay home at