Paccar MX 13 - Avg fuel economy running bulk freight

What year? There are a fair share of us in the bulk community that would say the MPG would be 0 as it will never leave the shop if it is 2023 or newer. Prior to that I have heard good things.

I agree with Robert, but view it differently. The fuel cost per day is amazing on the Paccar engines. Fill you tanks and it'll last a good two or three months while it sits in the shop. There is a reason trucks with paccars are as cheap as expired meat at wal-mart, constant fuel system issues, constant aftertreatment failures, then you add the tow bill because only Pete or KW dealer can make repairs, two weeks to get diagnosise at most locations, then a week or two waiting for parts and final repair. Then the unease of waiting for the next failure to happen.

Anthony, you get a gold star for explaining the complexities of heavy truck resale.

Your last part "unease of waiting for the next failure" can have massive consequences. when it comes to driver retention. You can only tell a driver so many times "it is a new truck" as it continues to breakdown before they leave or you have to buy another truck. Then of course you need to trade in expired walmart meat on a better truck and take a whoppin.

It is a 2022

Any Paccar above 500,000 is a ticking time bomb. Make it to 700,000 without a rebuild, count your lucky stars. That's why they're cheap. Then JX Peterbilt says $80k for a rebuild (or a long block, same $) that gets you a lousy 60 day warranty. That motor, along with any Navistar 13 liter and the old D16 Volvo are Owner Operator killers.

If you're just one truck, Detroit DD13 or DD15 and their aftertreatment systems are the most dependable. Note they are not perfect, but the equipment and the availability of dealers is the best available.

I put over 1.5 million on a DD15 with no rebuild; now over 420 k on a DD13 and so far so good. A couple issues that warranty covered and cost a half a day on 2 occasions. Manual Trans in both, both 7- 7.5 mpg pulling a 102 by 84 Timpte. A Paccar won't run that long or get that mpg pulling hopper.

Truck Country/Stoops have many shops open 16 hrs a day during the week and a least Saturday until 3 and never kept me down for long on either motor. My home base dealer is open 18 hrs a day during the week and 12 hrs a day Saturday and Sunday. They have taken in the truck Friday afternoon and had me ready to go by Sunday night numerous times over the years.

If you're in Fyda territory you're screwed though. Bad, slow service served with a screw you attitude. Wasted thousands with them. Tow it West to a Stoops.

Dealer service is stupid expensive. But if I go to a cheaper non dealer shop to save a couple grand (good people but slower; under manned and no second shift) but lose a week of revenue (typically $5 to $7k) the cheaper shop isn't cheaper.

The pre emissions Cat group seem to have a good reputation and no aftertreatment crap to deal with, but I have no experience with them so you'll have to check with someone that runs that way.

We are looking at a 2022 Paccar with 290k miles on it with a 2 year 250 000 mile warranty(Engine,Transmission and Aftreatment). We want to replace our entire fleet with lighter more fuel efficient trucks that we will spec brand new from the factory. Looking at buying this one to test it before we order 5 new units in the fall of this year. Thank you for everyones advice, I appreciate it!

I have a 2022 Pete 389 with a paccar 510 hp I get 6.3 to 6.5 with it absolutely love my little paccar 700000 miles on it and the only thing I've done to the motor itself is one injector now the after treatment system is a different story