What is inside of a brokers head?

Jun 22, 2020 at 09:30 AM CST + 17 - 3
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. When you look on a load board and see a 1271 mile load going from ND to Id for 50/ton, it makes you wonder why anyone would even post this load and what kind of fool would even book a load like this. At a 30 ton load it is a whopping 1.18/mile running out into the mountains. WTF?!!! Is there no standard at all in this industry? All I can say is WOW! I know if a shipper were to call our office and say that they were paying, I would not even entertain these loads! I really hope no one is stupid enough to haul these loads!

Replied on Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 04:45 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Oh they're out there, hauling for that and less.

Replied on Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 04:57 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Oh they're out there, hauling for that and less." Won't be for long! Unsustainable at those rates!!!

Replied on Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 11:04 AM CST - 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Is it any different than a leach realtor. Or insurance salesman some on here list 2-3 different brokers for the same load now lightway is moving a lot of fertilizer and grain around Nd. They are from Canada but are half owned by terry at commodity service a USA company out of Minnesota and Florida they have a broker in California also

Replied on Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 11:04 AM CST + 2
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. I'm hoping they go broke or run their equipment in the ground soon so I can get some work

Replied on Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 12:26 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Is it any different than a leach realtor. Or insurance salesman some on here list 2-3 different brokers for the same load now lightway is moving a lot of fertilizer and grain around Nd. They are from Canada but are half owned by terry at commodity service a USA company out of Minnesota and Florida they have a broker in California also" oh... is that how they kept afloat??? interesting, and very good to know, thanks!

Replied on Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 12:26 PM CST

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Quote: "Is it any different than a leach realtor. Or insurance salesman some on here list 2-3 different brokers for the same load now lightway is moving a lot of fertilizer and grain around Nd. They are from Canada but are half owned by terry at commodity service a USA company out of Minnesota and Florida they have a broker in California also"

oh... is that how they kept afloat??? interesting, and very good to know, thanks!

Replied on Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 12:26 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote deleted find direct customers :)

Replied on Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 12:26 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Is it any different than a leach realtor. Or insurance salesman some on here list 2-3 different brokers for the same load now lightway is moving a lot of fertilizer and grain around Nd. They are from Canada but are half owned by terry at commodity service a USA company out of Minnesota and Florida they have a broker in California also" surely they cant be interstating being canadian trucks and drivers????

Replied on Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 12:26 PM CST

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surely they cant be interstating being canadian trucks and drivers????

Replied on Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 11:41 AM CST + 2
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Won't be for long! Unsustainable at those rates!!!" It costs the broker absolutely nothing to post the load. Zero costs into it and they have exposure to thousands of trucks today. Load boards and the internet have opened every market up to every individual who chooses to work in the industry. All it takes is one truck to take the load and the broker makes his sale. Just a numbers game for the brokers, the more loads they posts, the more trucks see it, the more trucks that see it, the greater the odds someone will take it. All they need to do is post it and play the odds in today's world. Unfortunate, but that is the world we live in today and it makes it that much harder for the individual to be successful. Margins have been beaten down based on volume and the shippers know it. So many variables that create low rates, supply of trucks, demand of freight etc but most of all it is the driver living in fear of the banker, whenever fear is the motivator, irritional decision making will almost always supersede the rational thought process. Once a shipper gets a cheap rate, they say the last guy took it and so on. There is a small group of active and intelligent operators on these forums, however that is a very small percentage of the actual population in the industry. The rest of population has the attitude of I don't care about anyone but myself and i am going to do what i need to do even if it is against the industry norm. The load boards are more of a tool for the shippers then they are for the trucker. Truckers think they get access to all these potential loads, but in reality, it is a tool for the shipper to reach out to thousands of trucks to get competitive rates.

Replied on Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 11:41 AM CST

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Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Quote: "Won't be for long! Unsustainable at those rates!!!"

It costs the broker absolutely nothing to post the load. Zero costs into it and they have exposure to thousands of trucks today. Load boards and the internet have opened every market up to every individual who chooses to work in the industry. All it takes is one truck to take the load and the broker makes his sale. Just a numbers game for the brokers, the more loads they posts, the more trucks see it, the more trucks that see it, the greater the odds someone will take it. All they need to do is post it and play the odds in today's world. Unfortunate, but that is the world we live in today and it makes it that much harder for the individual to be successful. Margins have been beaten down based on volume and the shippers know it. So many variables that create low rates, supply of trucks, demand of freight etc but most of all it is the driver living in fear of the banker, whenever fear is the motivator, irritional decision making will almost always supersede the rational thought process. Once a shipper gets a cheap rate, they say the last guy took it and so on. There is a small group of active and intelligent operators on these forums, however that is a very small percentage of the actual population in the industry. The rest of population has the attitude of I don't care about anyone but myself and i am going to do what i need to do even if it is against the industry norm. The load boards are more of a tool for the shippers then they are for the trucker. Truckers think they get access to all these potential loads, but in reality, it is a tool for the shipper to reach out to thousands of trucks to get competitive rates.

Replied on Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 02:10 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Now I see one 1356 miles 55 ton on about same lane. Pfff

Replied on Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 02:59 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Now I see one 1356 miles 55 ton on about same lane. Pfff" I have been seeing rates like that too. Unreal.

Replied on Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 04:18 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Now I see one 1356 miles 55 ton on about same lane. Pfff" come up here to deliver and i will run you at $5/loaded mile + ($30/mt cdn for tridem loads - 30mt), thats 3 bucks both ways.

Replied on Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 05:59 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Thing is the majority of the trucks on this board can only load 25 ton. Closed tandem trailers out number Spread, Triples, and Trains even in States with high GVWs.....Foltz only runs closed tandem trailers even though they're based in MN where you can legally gross 90k

Replied on Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 08:17 AM CST + 4
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Thing is the majority of the trucks on this board can only load 25 ton. Closed tandem trailers out number Spread, Triples, and Trains even in States with high GVWs.....Foltz only runs closed tandem trailers even though they're based in MN where you can legally gross 90k" There is no reason that you can not make a living with a 5 axle rig! What we are seeing these days is the retirement of the old guard who had a sense of loyalty, respect and common sense as to what it takes to be profitable in the industry. With the passing of the guard, we see any computer savy, techy person with no skin in the game and barely the knowledge of product weights (sometimes no knowledge, IE TQL) come out and start bidding loads without the slightest inkling of what it takes to be profitable in this industry! Right now is the time we need to start dismantling the myths of "backhauls"! There is no such thing as a back haul!!!! Every mile that a semi puts on through out the course of the year has a static cost, weather it be loaded or empty, there are costs attributed to each mile! If your loads do not meet that bottom line, you are not profitable and will not be in business long. The new crop of broker does not care if the truck is profitable or not, as long as they can move their loads and take there percentage off of the top, and some times a healthy percentage! There are plenty of awesome brokers out there too who take their base percentage and nothing more or less and they get the repeat business because they get their loads moved on time by paying a fair rate. To you brokers, and you know who I speak of since we do business together, I say thank you for being a credit to your proffession! To those who feed off of the bottom, I have zero respect! I have been in the trucking industry since 1986, 24 years behind the wheel and 10 years behind the desk and can honestly say that the changes of the past 5 years have been the worst for the industry. Good luck, Happy independence day and hope you all stay safe and profitable!

Replied on Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 08:17 AM CST

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Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Quote: "Thing is the majority of the trucks on this board can only load 25 ton. Closed tandem trailers out number Spread, Triples, and Trains even in States with high GVWs.....Foltz only runs closed tandem trailers even though they're based in MN where you can legally gross 90k"

There is no reason that you can not make a living with a 5 axle rig! What we are seeing these days is the retirement of the old guard who had a sense of loyalty, respect and common sense as to what it takes to be profitable in the industry. With the passing of the guard, we see any computer savy, techy person with no skin in the game and barely the knowledge of product weights (sometimes no knowledge, IE TQL) come out and start bidding loads without the slightest inkling of what it takes to be profitable in this industry!

Right now is the time we need to start dismantling the myths of "backhauls"! There is no such thing as a back haul!!!! Every mile that a semi puts on through out the course of the year has a static cost, weather it be loaded or empty, there are costs attributed to each mile! If your loads do not meet that bottom line, you are not profitable and will not be in business long.

The new crop of broker does not care if the truck is profitable or not, as long as they can move their loads and take there percentage off of the top, and some times a healthy percentage! There are plenty of awesome brokers out there too who take their base percentage and nothing more or less and they get the repeat business because they get their loads moved on time by paying a fair rate. To you brokers, and you know who I speak of since we do business together, I say thank you for being a credit to your proffession! To those who feed off of the bottom, I have zero respect!

I have been in the trucking industry since 1986, 24 years behind the wheel and 10 years behind the desk and can honestly say that the changes of the past 5 years have been the worst for the industry.

Good luck, Happy independence day and hope you all stay safe and profitable!

Replied on Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 05:42 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "There is no reason that you can not make a living with a 5 axle rig! What we are seeing these days is the retirement of the old guard who had a sense of loyalty, respect and common sense as to what it takes to be profitable in the industry. With the passing of the guard, we see any computer savy, techy person with no skin in the game and barely the knowledge of product weights (sometimes no knowledge, IE TQL) come out and start bidding loads without the slightest inkling of what it takes to be profitable in this industry! Right now is the time we need to start dismantling the myths of "backhauls"! There is no such thing as a back haul!!!! Every mile that a semi puts on through out the course of the year has a static cost, weather it be loaded or empty, there are costs attributed to each mile! If your loads do not meet that bottom line, you are not profitable and will not be in business long. The new crop of broker does not care if the truck is profitable or not, as long as they can move their loads and take there percentage off of the top, and some times a healthy percentage! There are plenty of awesome brokers out there too who take their base percentage and nothing more or less and they get the repeat business because they get their loads moved on time by paying a fair rate. To you brokers, and you know who I speak of since we do business together, I say thank you for being a credit to your proffession! To those who feed off of the bottom, I have zero respect! I have been in the trucking industry since 1986, 24 years behind the wheel and 10 years behind the desk and can honestly say that the changes of the past 5 years have been the worst for the industry. Good luck, Happy independence day and hope you all stay safe and profitable!" I was replying to Charlotte on "if you load 44 ton" that's the only way they're getting the $3+ dollars a mile is by loading over 25 ton, which we shouldn't have to. I agree with you on everything though. I know the "Backhaul" bullshit game all too well, the place I pulled a cow trailer for started taking "Backhauls" from MN back to MT at $1.90 a mile to cover fuel out and back, well the place in MN found out about it and cut the rate coming in. Then 7 out of 10 times I'd have to bounce halfway across MT to reload for MN. So those "Backhauls" didn't even make it worth it.

Replied on Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 05:42 PM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Quote: "There is no reason that you can not make a living with a 5 axle rig! What we are seeing these days is the retirement of the old guard who had a sense of loyalty, respect and common sense as to what it takes to be profitable in the industry. With the passing of the guard, we see any computer savy, techy person with no skin in the game and barely the knowledge of product weights (sometimes no knowledge, IE TQL) come out and start bidding loads without the slightest inkling of what it takes to be profitable in this industry! Right now is the time we need to start dismantling the myths of "backhauls"! There is no such thing as a back haul!!!! Every mile that a semi puts on through out the course of the year has a static cost, weather it be loaded or empty, there are costs attributed to each mile! If your loads do not meet that bottom line, you are not profitable and will not be in business long. The new crop of broker does not care if the truck is profitable or not, as long as they can move their loads and take there percentage off of the top, and some times a healthy percentage! There are plenty of awesome brokers out there too who take their base percentage and nothing more or less and they get the repeat business because they get their loads moved on time by paying a fair rate. To you brokers, and you know who I speak of since we do business together, I say thank you for being a credit to your proffession! To those who feed off of the bottom, I have zero respect! I have been in the trucking industry since 1986, 24 years behind the wheel and 10 years behind the desk and can honestly say that the changes of the past 5 years have been the worst for the industry. Good luck, Happy independence day and hope you all stay safe and profitable!"

I was replying to Charlotte on "if you load 44 ton" that's the only way they're getting the $3+ dollars a mile is by loading over 25 ton, which we shouldn't have to. I agree with you on everything though. I know the "Backhaul" bullshit game all too well, the place I pulled a cow trailer for started taking "Backhauls" from MN back to MT at $1.90 a mile to cover fuel out and back, well the place in MN found out about it and cut the rate coming in. Then 7 out of 10 times I'd have to bounce halfway across MT to reload for MN. So those "Backhauls" didn't even make it worth it.

Replied on Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 07:44 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Actually MN is 80k without expensive permits

Replied on Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:57 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "I was replying to Charlotte on "if you load 44 ton" that's the only way they're getting the $3+ dollars a mile is by loading over 25 ton, which we shouldn't have to. I agree with you on everything though. I know the "Backhaul" bullshit game all too well, the place I pulled a cow trailer for started taking "Backhauls" from MN back to MT at $1.90 a mile to cover fuel out and back, well the place in MN found out about it and cut the rate coming in. Then 7 out of 10 times I'd have to bounce halfway across MT to reload for MN. So those "Backhauls" didn't even make it worth it." That is why I say, we need to take the word "backhaul" out of our vocabulary. Every load is just that and has to be profitable, just as every load could be considered a "backhaul" for someone. Rates absolutely suck right now if you are working the load boards. If you work with customers, you are probably doing ok. We all need to work together to keep going and stay in business! Let the guys that think they need to haul something to be profitable go broke and then we will be able to make money again!

Replied on Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:57 AM CST

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Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Quote: "I was replying to Charlotte on "if you load 44 ton" that's the only way they're getting the $3+ dollars a mile is by loading over 25 ton, which we shouldn't have to. I agree with you on everything though. I know the "Backhaul" bullshit game all too well, the place I pulled a cow trailer for started taking "Backhauls" from MN back to MT at $1.90 a mile to cover fuel out and back, well the place in MN found out about it and cut the rate coming in. Then 7 out of 10 times I'd have to bounce halfway across MT to reload for MN. So those "Backhauls" didn't even make it worth it."

That is why I say, we need to take the word "backhaul" out of our vocabulary. Every load is just that and has to be profitable, just as every load could be considered a "backhaul" for someone. Rates absolutely suck right now if you are working the load boards. If you work with customers, you are probably doing ok. We all need to work together to keep going and stay in business! Let the guys that think they need to haul something to be profitable go broke and then we will be able to make money again!

Replied on Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 01:11 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Actually MN is 80k without expensive permits" It's $300 for a annual 6 axle up to 90k overweight permit, and it is bummped up to 99k in the winter, that's less than less than a dollar a day. I wouldn't call that a expensive permit....

Replied on Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 10:13 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "That is why I say, we need to take the word "backhaul" out of our vocabulary. Every load is just that and has to be profitable, just as every load could be considered a "backhaul" for someone. Rates absolutely suck right now if you are working the load boards. If you work with customers, you are probably doing ok. We all need to work together to keep going and stay in business! Let the guys that think they need to haul something to be profitable go broke and then we will be able to make money again! " backhaul is the most ridiculous term ever and doesnt at all reflect the costs to the truck. when customers ask me to find one for the truck to compensate their rate or want the truck back in the area. if they have to ask that, they are the backhaul, lol

Replied on Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 10:13 AM CST

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Quote: "That is why I say, we need to take the word "backhaul" out of our vocabulary. Every load is just that and has to be profitable, just as every load could be considered a "backhaul" for someone. Rates absolutely suck right now if you are working the load boards. If you work with customers, you are probably doing ok. We all need to work together to keep going and stay in business! Let the guys that think they need to haul something to be profitable go broke and then we will be able to make money again! "

backhaul is the most ridiculous term ever and doesnt at all reflect the costs to the truck. when customers ask me to find one for the truck to compensate their rate or want the truck back in the area. if they have to ask that, they are the backhaul, lol

Replied on Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 08:39 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. In all reality this probably hasn’t been fun for anyone, that includes carriers, brokers, shippers, insurance companies, and law enforcement. But step back to 40 years ago when everyone told the government to leave them alone, and just let everyone do what they wanted, give everyone access to the market, allow anyone to get authorities. Well everyone got what they wished for, and now the government is buying up trucking companies because they are all broke, and none of them can make a profit, YRC is the latest example, they just cost the taxpayers 700 million, ten times what their stock was worth.

Replied on Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 08:39 AM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

In all reality this probably hasn’t been fun for anyone, that includes carriers, brokers, shippers, insurance companies, and law enforcement. But step back to 40 years ago when everyone told the government to leave them alone, and just let everyone do what they wanted, give everyone access to the market, allow anyone to get authorities. Well everyone got what they wished for, and now the government is buying up trucking companies because they are all broke, and none of them can make a profit, YRC is the latest example, they just cost the taxpayers 700 million, ten times what their stock was worth.

Replied on Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 08:58 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Was just informed that the rate I was being paid 2.00 all miles was bid in at 1.24 per mile I said to let me know when my rate will work

Replied on Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 08:58 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "surely they cant be interstating being canadian trucks and drivers????" Yup I called dot they said they have the right to haul because of cross country authority

Replied on Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 12:16 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "It's $300 for a annual 6 axle up to 90k overweight permit, and it is bummped up to 99k in the winter, that's less than less than a dollar a day. I wouldn't call that a expensive permit...." Josh, someone may need to correct me if I'm wrong or if I got the wrong permit, but my Minnesota permit indicates that I can only weigh that much if its on a state highway, absolutely no interstates, and only for "agricultural products " livestock, grain, unprocessed feeds, racing monkeys and whale blubber are legit. Fertilizer, processed feeds and interstates in mn are 80k only unless it's a non divisible load

Replied on Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 12:16 PM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Quote: "It's $300 for a annual 6 axle up to 90k overweight permit, and it is bummped up to 99k in the winter, that's less than less than a dollar a day. I wouldn't call that a expensive permit...."

Josh, someone may need to correct me if I'm wrong or if I got the wrong permit, but my Minnesota permit indicates that I can only weigh that much if its on a state highway, absolutely no interstates, and only for "agricultural products " livestock, grain, unprocessed feeds, racing monkeys and whale blubber are legit. Fertilizer, processed feeds and interstates in mn are 80k only unless it's a non divisible load

Replied on Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 02:03 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Josh, someone may need to correct me if I'm wrong or if I got the wrong permit, but my Minnesota permit indicates that I can only weigh that much if its on a state highway, absolutely no interstates, and only for "agricultural products " livestock, grain, unprocessed feeds, racing monkeys and whale blubber are legit. Fertilizer, processed feeds and interstates in mn are 80k only unless it's a non divisible load" Fertilizer is NOT covered under the ag permit. I got stopped at point of delivery and was 15280 lbs over. Dot said the ladies did not have the list sent to me that said what was or wasn’t exempt. I had 7 axles. He looked at all the e mails. And said the next time pull a tandem. It was just a warning he was nice compared to the othermndot a lady corn hauler for commodity service from Steele to Underwood got stopped 130000 got fined 18000 and had to unload to 94000. Same day another got 7600 fine 121000. All oil workers. Making up for low rates. Got another putting 5 trucks and 3 axle trailers working Monday. Africans exceeded the 6 month stay. Moved up to the Ross area and commercial hauling farmers grain. For a lot of different farmers. Doesn’t seem right. Africans don’t pay income tax. Their money is worth 18 cents. When they go back they are millionaire

Replied on Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 02:03 PM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Quote: "Josh, someone may need to correct me if I'm wrong or if I got the wrong permit, but my Minnesota permit indicates that I can only weigh that much if its on a state highway, absolutely no interstates, and only for "agricultural products " livestock, grain, unprocessed feeds, racing monkeys and whale blubber are legit. Fertilizer, processed feeds and interstates in mn are 80k only unless it's a non divisible load"

Fertilizer is NOT covered under the ag permit. I got stopped at point of delivery and was 15280 lbs over. Dot said the ladies did not have the list sent to me that said what was or wasn’t exempt. I had 7 axles. He looked at all the e mails. And said the next time pull a tandem. It was just a warning

he was nice compared to the othermndot

a lady corn hauler for commodity service from Steele to Underwood got stopped 130000 got fined 18000 and had to unload to 94000. Same day another got 7600 fine 121000. All oil workers. Making up for low rates. Got another putting 5 trucks and 3 axle trailers working Monday. Africans exceeded the 6 month stay. Moved up to the Ross area and commercial hauling farmers grain. For a lot of different farmers. Doesn’t seem right. Africans don’t pay income tax. Their money is worth 18 cents. When they go back they are millionaire

Replied on Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 09:50 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Won't be for long! Unsustainable at those rates!!!" Don't forget, those hauling for those rates are not playing on the same level you and I do. Many are forigners that recieve many supports, or tax forgiveness that you and I do not recieve. Carefully think about that when you vote each time. Look where the canidate stands. Do they support you ? or just tax you?

Replied on Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 09:50 PM CST

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Quote: "Won't be for long! Unsustainable at those rates!!!"

Don't forget, those hauling for those rates are not playing on the same level you and I do. Many are forigners that recieve many supports, or tax forgiveness that you and I do not recieve. Carefully think about that when you vote each time. Look where the canidate stands. Do they support you ? or just tax you?

Replied on Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 09:51 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Josh, someone may need to correct me if I'm wrong or if I got the wrong permit, but my Minnesota permit indicates that I can only weigh that much if its on a state highway, absolutely no interstates, and only for "agricultural products " livestock, grain, unprocessed feeds, racing monkeys and whale blubber are legit. Fertilizer, processed feeds and interstates in mn are 80k only unless it's a non divisible load" Should be permit #69 $300 fee plus processing fees, for 90,000 on 6 axles. $500 fee plus processing fees, for 97,000 on 7 axles. And the Ag products list is really vauge at best. i have been after Minnesota to create a specific list of products. Iowa has come along way in letting things run along at 96,000 on 7 axles. Much as SD and other nearby states have done. Have had resonable luck with running from MN to Mo at 88,000 legal most ag related products. Use permit #13 for $60 for 10% overweight in Minnesota durning frozen road times, and Mo. allows 88,000 on ag products. Helps. (Minn posts times and zones for frozen road permit)

Replied on Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 09:51 PM CST

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Should be permit #69

$300 fee plus processing fees, for 90,000 on 6 axles.

$500 fee plus processing fees, for 97,000 on 7 axles.

And the Ag products list is really vauge at best. i have been after Minnesota to create a specific list of products.

Iowa has come along way in letting things run along at 96,000 on 7 axles. Much as SD and other nearby states have done.

Have had resonable luck with running from MN to Mo at 88,000 legal most ag related products.

Use permit #13 for $60 for 10% overweight in Minnesota durning frozen road times, and Mo. allows 88,000 on ag products. Helps.

(Minn posts times and zones for frozen road permit)

Replied on Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 09:52 PM CST

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Quote: "Now I see one 1356 miles 55 ton on about same lane. Pfff"

Yea, I spotted this today.

Crete	NE	Oakley	ID	7/9	8/6	1	60 ton	Grain	H, HHS, HLS	1,037 W	5 Days Ago

Its a $1.88/ mile at 32.5 ton, which is silly.

Replied on Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 09:05 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Oh there are, and are doing it.

Replied on Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 07:05 AM CST - 2
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. We have freight all over from direct shippers paying close to $3.00 a mile give us a call if you are interested. Flatbed,Reefer and dryvan.

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