Super singles

Mar 30, 2021 at 05:37 PM CST + 4
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. How many of you run super singles on flat beds trailers pro's and con's

Replied on Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 05:14 PM CST - 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. I had super singles on my truck a few years ago and when one of them blew out (I was on a very narrow section of I-44 in Tulsa, OK) I had to stop right then and there; Struggled to go maybe about 100 fet or so to get to where there was barely a roadside shoulder...

Replied on Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 07:42 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. I run singles on both my truck and trailer, for the weight savings only, pulling a hopper, paid by the ton. I always check the tractor tires for pressure and the trailer uses an auto fill system. Considering a tire monitoring system for the tractor.

Replied on Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 09:39 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Not on a flatbed, BUT I've run them a a spread axle walking floor for about fifteen years. To it right requires extra attention. Tire pressure, wheel bearing adjustment, etc. Zero off set rims would be best on the trailer. I'm a Michelin man but in recent years I have found them maybe too soft. Started chewing them up on the front axle like you ran them across a cheese grader. I have a dump/lift on that axle and I'm very careful turning. I went to a different brand for that axle for now. Rear axle wore beautifully to about 200,000 miles. A Tire Monitoring System is one of the best investments I've ever made.

Replied on Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 09:39 AM CST

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Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Not on a flatbed, BUT I've run them a a spread axle walking floor for about fifteen years. To it right requires extra attention. Tire pressure, wheel bearing adjustment, etc. Zero off set rims would be best on the trailer. I'm a Michelin man but in recent years I have found them maybe too soft. Started chewing them up on the front axle like you ran them across a cheese grader. I have a dump/lift on that axle and I'm very careful turning. I went to a different brand for that axle for now. Rear axle wore beautifully to about 200,000 miles.

A Tire Monitoring System is one of the best investments I've ever made.

Replied on Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 09:39 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. I am considering them for the weight savings my truck are sometimes a little over weight or are pushing the limit really hard but I am not sure what kind of trouble it would be finding replacement on the road

Replied on Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 10:10 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "I am considering them for the weight savings my truck are sometimes a little over weight or are pushing the limit really hard but I am not sure what kind of trouble it would be finding replacement on the road" Saves about 100 pounds per wheel position vesus 22.5 lo pro duals on aluminum wheels. Check around on the availibility. They are fairly common. Invest in the tire monitor. I haven't had a tire problem on the road in years.

Replied on Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 10:10 AM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Quote: "I am considering them for the weight savings my truck are sometimes a little over weight or are pushing the limit really hard but I am not sure what kind of trouble it would be finding replacement on the road"

Saves about 100 pounds per wheel position vesus 22.5 lo pro duals on aluminum wheels. Check around on the availibility. They are fairly common. Invest in the tire monitor. I haven't had a tire problem on the road in years.

Replied on Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:23 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Yes all 3 of my trailers have the tire monitor on them

Replied on Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 07:38 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. What monitoring system are you buying? Art Pfluger

Replied on Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 09:47 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "What monitoring system are you buying? Art Pfluger" Doran.

Replied on Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 04:19 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. How many axles or tires are monitored? Approx cost? Art Pfluger

Replied on Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 05:36 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "How many axles or tires are monitored? Approx cost? Art Pfluger" Don't hold me to it, maybe 32 tires... I've had mine for 4 years or so. If I remember right, around $700.00. That was for 10 tires. I run wide-singles. It has an antenna you mount to the rear cross member on the tractor to help pick up the sensors on the trailer. I have replaced the antenna and the monitor each one time. I think I solved the problems that caused the failures prematurely. I'm happy enough with it. Knowing shit happens and the next brand may or may not be any better. We'll see. I had an inflation system on a few trailers. Had a few problems there too. Personally I like the monitor better. Surely a combination of the two would be best.

Replied on Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 05:36 AM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Quote: "How many axles or tires are monitored? Approx cost? Art Pfluger"

Don't hold me to it, maybe 32 tires... I've had mine for 4 years or so. If I remember right, around $700.00. That was for 10 tires. I run wide-singles. It has an antenna you mount to the rear cross member on the tractor to help pick up the sensors on the trailer. I have replaced the antenna and the monitor each one time. I think I solved the problems that caused the failures prematurely.

I'm happy enough with it. Knowing shit happens and the next brand may or may not be any better. We'll see. I had an inflation system on a few trailers. Had a few problems there too. Personally I like the monitor better. Surely a combination of the two would be best.

Replied on Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 02:26 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Art, Are you still looking for Road King shocks? I have a set on a "builder truck" I'm working on.

Replied on Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 07:30 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Is road king still in business

Replied on Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 09:40 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Is road king still in business" Yes, but no more heavy duty commercial vehicle products.

Replied on Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 11:06 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Yes I would still like a few road kings to tear into. We build race car shocks and have a dyno for them. Would like to see if we can access seals and stuff from some of our suppliers to see if we can rebuild them Art Pfluger

Replied on Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 06:32 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Not on a flatbed, BUT I've run them a a spread axle walking floor for about fifteen years. To it right requires extra attention. Tire pressure, wheel bearing adjustment, etc. Zero off set rims would be best on the trailer. I'm a Michelin man but in recent years I have found them maybe too soft. Started chewing them up on the front axle like you ran them across a cheese grader. I have a dump/lift on that axle and I'm very careful turning. I went to a different brand for that axle for now. Rear axle wore beautifully to about 200,000 miles. A Tire Monitoring System is one of the best investments I've ever made." I run super single michelin's myself on the truck and three trailers. One of the trailers is a spread and the other two are tandems. Which Michelin are you running on the spread?

Replied on Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 06:32 PM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Quote: "Not on a flatbed, BUT I've run them a a spread axle walking floor for about fifteen years. To it right requires extra attention. Tire pressure, wheel bearing adjustment, etc. Zero off set rims would be best on the trailer. I'm a Michelin man but in recent years I have found them maybe too soft. Started chewing them up on the front axle like you ran them across a cheese grader. I have a dump/lift on that axle and I'm very careful turning. I went to a different brand for that axle for now. Rear axle wore beautifully to about 200,000 miles. A Tire Monitoring System is one of the best investments I've ever made."

I run super single michelin's myself on the truck and three trailers. One of the trailers is a spread and the other two are tandems. Which Michelin are you running on the spread?

Replied on Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 09:26 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Yes I would still like a few road kings to tear into. We build race car shocks and have a dyno for them. Would like to see if we can access seals and stuff from some of our suppliers to see if we can rebuild them Art Pfluger" I've got a pair on the drive axle of a 6 x 2 (2 shocks). You can have them for the shipping or a bottle of George Dickel (white label). I'll get in touch with you when I get them off. It might a week or two.

Replied on Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 09:26 AM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Quote: "Yes I would still like a few road kings to tear into. We build race car shocks and have a dyno for them. Would like to see if we can access seals and stuff from some of our suppliers to see if we can rebuild them Art Pfluger"

I've got a pair on the drive axle of a 6 x 2 (2 shocks). You can have them for the shipping or a bottle of George Dickel (white label). I'll get in touch with you when I get them off. It might a week or two.

Replied on Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 09:26 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "I run super single michelin's myself on the truck and three trailers. One of the trailers is a spread and the other two are tandems. Which Michelin are you running on the spread?" X One Multi Energy T. Wears beautifully on the rear axle, but was getting chewed up on the front axle. Didn't have that problem with the old XTE.

Replied on Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 08:40 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Not on a flatbed, BUT I've run them a a spread axle walking floor for about fifteen years. To it right requires extra attention. Tire pressure, wheel bearing adjustment, etc. Zero off set rims would be best on the trailer. I'm a Michelin man but in recent years I have found them maybe too soft. Started chewing them up on the front axle like you ran them across a cheese grader. I have a dump/lift on that axle and I'm very careful turning. I went to a different brand for that axle for now. Rear axle wore beautifully to about 200,000 miles. A Tire Monitoring System is one of the best investments I've ever made." Exactly. I used to chew em up a lot on a 30 foot spread axle end dump . Real soft . They were just singles. Plus if you do not beef up the axle they tear up bearings from axle bowing from them being not as wide as duals .

Replied on Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 08:40 PM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Exactly. I used to chew em up a lot on a 30 foot spread axle end dump . Real soft . They were just singles. Plus if you do not beef up the axle they tear up bearings from axle bowing from them being not as wide as duals .

Replied on Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 09:14 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Exactly. I used to chew em up a lot on a 30 foot spread axle end dump . Real soft . They were just singles. Plus if you do not beef up the axle they tear up bearings from axle bowing from them being not as wide as duals ." If you have the correct axles and hubs, it's not likely to be a problem. Correct bearing adjustment is important. Zero off-set wheels would be best on a trailer. I have run 2" off-set on the drives for years and no problems.

Replied on Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 09:14 AM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Quote: "Exactly. I used to chew em up a lot on a 30 foot spread axle end dump . Real soft . They were just singles. Plus if you do not beef up the axle they tear up bearings from axle bowing from them being not as wide as duals ."

If you have the correct axles and hubs, it's not likely to be a problem. Correct bearing adjustment is important. Zero off-set wheels would be best on a trailer. I have run 2" off-set on the drives for years and no problems.

Replied on Mon, May 24, 2021 at 07:28 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. I ru n them all the way around. On e thing you will notice is they turn easier. Have the. On My hopper also. I like Hankook for trailer very good life. Price too. And to save money, I'm running Michelin caps on the drives. Very quite tire, wearing well.

Replied on Mon, May 24, 2021 at 07:28 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Dean, be happy to have the shocks. Let me know what shipping costs. Thanks Art Pfluger

Replied on Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 09:49 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. To advocate a tire monitor system. I had a flat on Friday. The alarm went off. Looked up to see a tire at 68 psi. Probably would have caught it sooner but had the juke box up loud. Heavy traffic, looked again, 56 psi. I hit the shoulder to verify. The flat was on a liftable axle. Wide single tire. Fully loaded but picked up the axle and went a couple miles to the next exit. Watched an episode of F-Troop and HeeHaw while waiting for the tire man. A couple of points. This was the first flat in probably ten years. I've had alarms before. Usually seasonal changes, cold temp low psi, hot temp high psi. And the rare false alarm. Secondly this truck is a 6x2. A new tire has 16/32". The tire taken off had 12/32". The tires on that axle have been on the truck for over four years. I generally run 110k to 120k miles a year and my dead head is around 35%. Lift axle aside, the monitor saved a $500.00 rim.

Replied on Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 09:49 PM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

To advocate a tire monitor system. I had a flat on Friday. The alarm went off. Looked up to see a tire at 68 psi. Probably would have caught it sooner but had the juke box up loud. Heavy traffic, looked again, 56 psi. I hit the shoulder to verify. The flat was on a liftable axle. Wide single tire. Fully loaded but picked up the axle and went a couple miles to the next exit. Watched an episode of F-Troop and HeeHaw while waiting for the tire man.

A couple of points. This was the first flat in probably ten years. I've had alarms before. Usually seasonal changes, cold temp low psi, hot temp high psi. And the rare false alarm. Secondly this truck is a 6x2. A new tire has 16/32". The tire taken off had 12/32". The tires on that axle have been on the truck for over four years. I generally run 110k to 120k miles a year and my dead head is around 35%.

Lift axle aside, the monitor saved a $500.00 rim.

Replied on Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 11:25 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "To advocate a tire monitor system. I had a flat on Friday. The alarm went off. Looked up to see a tire at 68 psi. Probably would have caught it sooner but had the juke box up loud. Heavy traffic, looked again, 56 psi. I hit the shoulder to verify. The flat was on a liftable axle. Wide single tire. Fully loaded but picked up the axle and went a couple miles to the next exit. Watched an episode of F-Troop and HeeHaw while waiting for the tire man. A couple of points. This was the first flat in probably ten years. I've had alarms before. Usually seasonal changes, cold temp low psi, hot temp high psi. And the rare false alarm. Secondly this truck is a 6x2. A new tire has 16/32". The tire taken off had 12/32". The tires on that axle have been on the truck for over four years. I generally run 110k to 120k miles a year and my dead head is around 35%. Lift axle aside, the monitor saved a $500.00 rim." Which T.M.S. do you have...🤷‍♂️

Replied on Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 11:25 AM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Quote: "To advocate a tire monitor system. I had a flat on Friday. The alarm went off. Looked up to see a tire at 68 psi. Probably would have caught it sooner but had the juke box up loud. Heavy traffic, looked again, 56 psi. I hit the shoulder to verify. The flat was on a liftable axle. Wide single tire. Fully loaded but picked up the axle and went a couple miles to the next exit. Watched an episode of F-Troop and HeeHaw while waiting for the tire man. A couple of points. This was the first flat in probably ten years. I've had alarms before. Usually seasonal changes, cold temp low psi, hot temp high psi. And the rare false alarm. Secondly this truck is a 6x2. A new tire has 16/32". The tire taken off had 12/32". The tires on that axle have been on the truck for over four years. I generally run 110k to 120k miles a year and my dead head is around 35%. Lift axle aside, the monitor saved a $500.00 rim."

Which T.M.S. do you have...🤷‍♂️

Replied on Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 12:08 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Which T.M.S. do you have...🤷‍♂️" Doran.

Replied on Thu, Nov 04, 2021 at 08:34 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Dean, be happy to have the shocks. Let me know what shipping costs. Thanks Art Pfluger" I had to cut them off Art. So they're junk. Building a truck with Paccars FlexAir suspension. Thick aluminum hangers and swing arms on a 2010 model. Obviously some swelling. I may regret not switching it out now.

Replied on Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 08:29 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Even if you cut them in half i want them. At this point I need to evaluate the internals and seals. Be happy to pay shipping. Thanks for at least thinking of me Art Pfluger

Replied on Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 02:49 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Even if you cut them in half i want them. At this point I need to evaluate the internals and seals. Be happy to pay shipping. Thanks for at least thinking of me Art Pfluger" OK

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