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Rate/mile for bulk tanker

Apr 27, 2023 at 08:27 AM CST
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I'm a broker who hasn't done a bulk load before, but am in the quoting proccess for a tanker from Arkansas to Colorado 1,080 miles total. It's not moving until June. How much is the rate/mile for bulk tankers right now. I understand the market is dymanic right now but just want to get a range.

Replied on Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 12:35 PM CST
$5000
Replied on Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 01:53 PM CST
No don't under $5.00 per mile, you are only hurting your business in the long run.
Replied on Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 02:08 PM CST
Youre right. $5400. I quoted for 1000 miles. Just realized it was 1080 miles.
Replied on Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 06:30 AM CST
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5.50 a mile + Fuel and Wash is the current norm from direct customers.

Replied on Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 10:18 PM CST
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I'm making this comment with no ill intention and not being rude. I'm not anti broker. There many things that need to be answered before you throw a rate out there. If you are getting into liquid bulk you need to figure out what those things are before you get in. Many brokers (and trucks) have recently jumped into the tank game with no experience, and they have basically trashed the market. I remember someone commenting recently they have actually hauled loads where the tank wash cost more than they were paid for the haul. Please do yourself and everyone else pulling a tank a favor and stay with what you know. When you jump in a new segment of the industry with no knowlege and bid against those that do know the market, the carriers are the collateral damage. The tank market is way more involved and complicated than the general freight market.

Replied on Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 10:18 PM CST
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Quote: "5.50 a mile + Fuel and Wash is the current norm from direct customers. "

That's not accurate if you have to pump, or air it off with your equipment unless you do it for free. Most that I know of don't do it for free because of the cost of the equipment.

Replied on Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 10:19 PM CST
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Kinda depends on what the product is. I'm running Kosher food grade at $10+ a mile. Mostly over $12.

Replied on Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 10:17 PM CST
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Quote: "Kinda depends on what the product is. I'm running Kosher food grade at $10+ a mile. Mostly over $12."

my point exactly..just wait until a general freight broker gets a shot at it.. it will be trashed as well.
Replied on Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 10:17 PM CST
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Thank You Barry...you are way nicer than me. I have a funeral Tuesday after I'm gonna go pu one of those trailers. See if we can get together. I'll call.

And Kyle you must be looking for something else to haul...telling the world your rate...its not that hard to figure out your shipper. Protect yourself. Foodgrade tanker has some of the most cutthroat rate cutter companies out there. And I don't have any, but I know some that do.

Paul

Replied on Mon, May 01, 2023 at 07:17 AM CST

REALLY^ ? CALL ME 260-515-5717

Replied on Mon, May 01, 2023 at 10:36 AM CST
Quote: "Thank You Barry...you are way nicer than me. I have a funeral Tuesday after I'm gonna go pu one of those trailers. See if we can get together. I'll call. And Kyle you must be looking for something else to haul...telling the world your rate...its not that hard to figure out your shipper. Protect yourself. Foodgrade tanker has some of the most cutthroat rate cutter companies out there. And I don't have any, but I know some that do. Paul"

thanks for speaking up , and for food grade at $10 to $12

per mile great job keeping cut rate guys out, you will do well there , long time tanker yanker

Replied on Mon, May 01, 2023 at 02:10 PM CST
Quote: "I'm making this comment with no ill intention and not being rude. I'm not anti broker. There many things that need to be answered before you throw a rate out there. If you are getting into liquid bulk you need to figure out what those things are before you get in. Many brokers (and trucks) have recently jumped into the tank game with no experience, and they have basically trashed the market. I remember someone commenting recently they have actually hauled loads where the tank wash cost more than they were paid for the haul. Please do yourself and everyone else pulling a tank a favor and stay with what you know. When you jump in a new segment of the industry with no knowlege and bid against those that do know the market, the carriers are the collateral damage. The tank market is way more involved and complicated than the general freight market. "

Standing ovation!!!!! The same thing has been done to the pneumatic side of things. As far as I know pneumatic work is at about 50% of where it was in 2019. I have people calling me that don't even know what a pneumatic is or how it works.
Replied on Tue, May 02, 2023 at 07:55 AM CST

Hey Tracy

Good to see you. I'm thinking you could explain a thing or 2 about foodgrade. How many ships you unloaded recently?

Paul

Replied on Tue, May 02, 2023 at 08:37 AM CST
Quote: "Hey Tracy Good to see you. I'm thinking you could explain a thing or 2 about foodgrade. How many ships you unloaded recently? Paul"

just one , got to have extra trailer in the mix for it to work out
thanks

Replied on Sat, May 06, 2023 at 08:06 PM CST
Quote: "my point exactly..just wait until a general freight broker gets a shot at it.. it will be trashed as well."

It’s already happening I I saw TQL had a kosher load posted from Newark to Chicago for $2,000. That’s just plain stupid, I’ll DH my trucks back to Chicago before i haul at that rate.
Replied on Mon, May 08, 2023 at 11:09 AM CST

Greetings!! Barry has offered sound advice. I would be interested in paying you to help me bid on tanker loads. I pulled tanks for over 4 years. Most people are tight lipped about rates. Without proper information, the market will continue to be polluted with terrible carriers. I can be reached at [email protected] or 478 335-0716. I'm currently working on additional information. I'd like to get more before I pursue this opportunity.

Replied on Thu, May 11, 2023 at 12:53 PM CST
Quote: "Kinda depends on what the product is. I'm running Kosher food grade at $10+ a mile. Mostly over $12."

What the ........???. For Food Grade?, No one teaching Tank Dispatching or brokering, How to train and switch?

Replied on Mon, May 15, 2023 at 10:35 AM CST
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Quote: "What the ........???. For Food Grade?, No one teaching Tank Dispatching or brokering, How to train and switch?"

Don't do it... PLEASE!!!