Pilot program

Feb 08, 2022 at 07:10 AM CST + 8 - 2
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. That pilot program for TEENS to transport goods across the country. BAD IDEA!!! I don't care if they go through a screening and whatever else. I bet they in 6 weeks they'll hand them the keys to a brand new truck. It's no different than these strong wheel holders out here. Just a bad idea all the way around.

Replied on Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 09:16 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. I agree, probably invented by the same bureaucrat who decided to spend $30,000,000 on supplying crack heads with government issued crack pipes. I can hear them now...Ok, the ATA says we need to supply the industry with more drivers..Where can we get them? I don't know, puff puff pass bro; I got it, let's take the most expensive group of people on the planet to insure, and give them CDLs! Yea, 18 to 21 year olds.. BRILLIANT! Only the mega carriers who are self insured will be able to insure them which will be NO help to the small carriers!!! WINNING!! It is amazing that 92% of the industry is made up of owner operators and small fleets, yet the government bets the farm on whatever the ATA says..UNBELIEVABLE🤬🤬

Replied on Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 09:16 PM CST

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I agree, probably invented by the same bureaucrat who decided to spend $30,000,000 on supplying crack heads with government issued crack pipes. I can hear them now...Ok, the ATA says we need to supply the industry with more drivers..Where can we get them? I don't know, puff puff pass bro; I got it, let's take the most expensive group of people on the planet to insure, and give them CDLs! Yea, 18 to 21 year olds.. BRILLIANT! Only the mega carriers who are self insured will be able to insure them which will be NO help to the small carriers!!! WINNING!!

It is amazing that 92% of the industry is made up of owner operators and small fleets, yet the government bets the farm on whatever the ATA says..UNBELIEVABLE🤬🤬

Replied on Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 10:28 AM CST + 3
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "I agree, probably invented by the same bureaucrat who decided to spend $30,000,000 on supplying crack heads with government issued crack pipes. I can hear them now...Ok, the ATA says we need to supply the industry with more drivers..Where can we get them? I don't know, puff puff pass bro; I got it, let's take the most expensive group of people on the planet to insure, and give them CDLs! Yea, 18 to 21 year olds.. BRILLIANT! Only the mega carriers who are self insured will be able to insure them which will be NO help to the small carriers!!! WINNING!! It is amazing that 92% of the industry is made up of owner operators and small fleets, yet the government bets the farm on whatever the ATA says..UNBELIEVABLE🤬🤬" Many truckers don’t like the way the country is going right now, Major Corporations have gone WOKE and now president Biden is handing out free Crack Pipes, and most of you wonder how it could come to this? It’s quite simple really, someone else was raising your kids while you were busy pursuing your career choice, one parent at the dinner table every night doesn’t cut it, if it did single people would be allowed to adopt children.

Replied on Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 10:28 AM CST

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Quote: "I agree, probably invented by the same bureaucrat who decided to spend $30,000,000 on supplying crack heads with government issued crack pipes. I can hear them now...Ok, the ATA says we need to supply the industry with more drivers..Where can we get them? I don't know, puff puff pass bro; I got it, let's take the most expensive group of people on the planet to insure, and give them CDLs! Yea, 18 to 21 year olds.. BRILLIANT! Only the mega carriers who are self insured will be able to insure them which will be NO help to the small carriers!!! WINNING!! It is amazing that 92% of the industry is made up of owner operators and small fleets, yet the government bets the farm on whatever the ATA says..UNBELIEVABLE🤬🤬"

Many truckers don’t like the way the country is going right now, Major Corporations have gone WOKE and now president Biden is handing out free Crack Pipes, and most of you wonder how it could come to this? It’s quite simple really, someone else was raising your kids while you were busy pursuing your career choice, one parent at the dinner table every night doesn’t cut it, if it did single people would be allowed to adopt children.

Replied on Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 01:39 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Dave, That is very harsh. 100% true but harsh.

Replied on Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 10:36 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Many truckers don’t like the way the country is going right now, Major Corporations have gone WOKE and now president Biden is handing out free Crack Pipes, and most of you wonder how it could come to this? It’s quite simple really, someone else was raising your kids while you were busy pursuing your career choice, one parent at the dinner table every night doesn’t cut it, if it did single people would be allowed to adopt children." Dave, we've had some good conversations on other post and I do agree that saying this is very harsh! Would you feel this way about military men and women? They're gone for 6 months to a year. Their child(ren) are left at home with 1 patent. Those men and women have chosen to serve and protect our country. Right now more than ever I'm Extremely proud of my brothers and sisters in the trucking industry. They have chose to basically serve the country by moving product from point A to point B. Without this industry you know as well as I do people would running naked and starving. Even though it's getting slowly to that point now. Everyone is different and have their way of making money. Who is anyone to say that the next guy is doing things wrong. I'm not!

Replied on Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 10:36 AM CST

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Quote: "Many truckers don’t like the way the country is going right now, Major Corporations have gone WOKE and now president Biden is handing out free Crack Pipes, and most of you wonder how it could come to this? It’s quite simple really, someone else was raising your kids while you were busy pursuing your career choice, one parent at the dinner table every night doesn’t cut it, if it did single people would be allowed to adopt children."

Dave, we've had some good conversations on other post and I do agree that saying this is very harsh! Would you feel this way about military men and women? They're gone for 6 months to a year. Their child(ren) are left at home with 1 patent. Those men and women have chosen to serve and protect our country. Right now more than ever I'm Extremely proud of my brothers and sisters in the trucking industry. They have chose to basically serve the country by moving product from point A to point B. Without this industry you know as well as I do people would running naked and starving. Even though it's getting slowly to that point now. Everyone is different and have their way of making money. Who is anyone to say that the next guy is doing things wrong. I'm not!

Replied on Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 12:05 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Dave, we've had some good conversations on other post and I do agree that saying this is very harsh! Would you feel this way about military men and women? They're gone for 6 months to a year. Their child(ren) are left at home with 1 patent. Those men and women have chosen to serve and protect our country. Right now more than ever I'm Extremely proud of my brothers and sisters in the trucking industry. They have chose to basically serve the country by moving product from point A to point B. Without this industry you know as well as I do people would running naked and starving. Even though it's getting slowly to that point now. Everyone is different and have their way of making money. Who is anyone to say that the next guy is doing things wrong. I'm not!" I'm in NO WAY trying to downplay the time sacrifice made by military members but it is not comparing apples to apples. Most people join the military pretty young. Definitely prior to having a family at home. The average age in the US military is 27. Many stay in with full careers and make it work, but most truckers spend their entire professional career being on the road, aka gone. The US has glorified hard work and being absent and then the US turns around a criticizes the decline of the nuclear family. Again I'm not downplaying family and the military, I'm just saying typically thats a young man or woman making that choice. It's a much harder choice with kids at home and I'd guess that's why the average military age isn't 35. Long story short, I agree with Dave

Replied on Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 12:05 PM CST

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Quote: "Dave, we've had some good conversations on other post and I do agree that saying this is very harsh! Would you feel this way about military men and women? They're gone for 6 months to a year. Their child(ren) are left at home with 1 patent. Those men and women have chosen to serve and protect our country. Right now more than ever I'm Extremely proud of my brothers and sisters in the trucking industry. They have chose to basically serve the country by moving product from point A to point B. Without this industry you know as well as I do people would running naked and starving. Even though it's getting slowly to that point now. Everyone is different and have their way of making money. Who is anyone to say that the next guy is doing things wrong. I'm not!"

I'm in NO WAY trying to downplay the time sacrifice made by military members but it is not comparing apples to apples. Most people join the military pretty young. Definitely prior to having a family at home. The average age in the US military is 27. Many stay in with full careers and make it work, but most truckers spend their entire professional career being on the road, aka gone. The US has glorified hard work and being absent and then the US turns around a criticizes the decline of the nuclear family. Again I'm not downplaying family and the military, I'm just saying typically thats a young man or woman making that choice. It's a much harder choice with kids at home and I'd guess that's why the average military age isn't 35. Long story short, I agree with Dave

Replied on Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 06:52 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Dave, we've had some good conversations on other post and I do agree that saying this is very harsh! Would you feel this way about military men and women? They're gone for 6 months to a year. Their child(ren) are left at home with 1 patent. Those men and women have chosen to serve and protect our country. Right now more than ever I'm Extremely proud of my brothers and sisters in the trucking industry. They have chose to basically serve the country by moving product from point A to point B. Without this industry you know as well as I do people would running naked and starving. Even though it's getting slowly to that point now. Everyone is different and have their way of making money. Who is anyone to say that the next guy is doing things wrong. I'm not!" The truth is definitely harsh but nevertheless it remains the truth and I am only the messenger of the truth, if I ceased to exist the truth would still remain.

Replied on Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 06:52 PM CST

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The truth is definitely harsh but nevertheless it remains the truth and I am only the messenger of the truth, if I ceased to exist the truth would still remain.

Replied on Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 08:20 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Not entirely true

Replied on Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 08:20 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. You don't think quality as a lot to do with it. You can be home all you want be if you suck at it it really will do no good

Replied on Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 08:59 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. I'm in NO WAY downplaying the military. They have my FULL support and FULL respect! They're doing something I dont think I could do. Yes, many of them start out very young and grow. They eventually find a special someone and start a family. They still get deployed and are away from their families. Truck drivers on the other hand, I know many that started out young and grew, eventually found that special someone and started a family. I was simply saying that if its "one parent at the dinner table every night doesn't cut it" for a truck driver, what makes it different for military? A truck driver is gone for a few weeks, come home for a few days, and back out. Military are gone for 6 months to a year. In which I was saying "military" as an example of another choice of lifestyle that a parent is away from home. My ex’s dad was Navy, and he was gone A Lot until he retired. Some people, trucking is all they know. It’s in their blood. They were raised watching daddy/mommy or grandpa/grandma hop in and take off. They learned at an early age this is the life of a truck driver is to be away from family.

Replied on Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 08:59 PM CST

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I'm in NO WAY downplaying the military. They have my FULL support and FULL respect! They're doing something I dont think I could do. Yes, many of them start out very young and grow. They eventually find a special someone and start a family. They still get deployed and are away from their families.
Truck drivers on the other hand, I know many that started out young and grew, eventually found that special someone and started a family. I was simply saying that if its "one parent at the dinner table every night doesn't cut it" for a truck driver, what makes it different for military? A truck driver is gone for a few weeks, come home for a few days, and back out. Military are gone for 6 months to a year. In which I was saying "military" as an example of another choice of lifestyle that a parent is away from home. My ex’s dad was Navy, and he was gone A Lot until he retired.

Some people, trucking is all they know. It’s in their blood. They were raised watching daddy/mommy or grandpa/grandma hop in and take off. They learned at an early age this is the life of a truck driver is to be away from family.

Replied on Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 08:39 AM CST - 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Statistics \| The Fatherless Generation (wordpress.com)

Replied on Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 08:58 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. So are we all suppose to quit are jobs to stay home with our kids. Money isn't everything but without it not much of a good family life either. So are you telling Dale he should quit trucking to protect his kids.

Replied on Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 09:35 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "So are we all suppose to quit are jobs to stay home with our kids. Money isn't everything but without it not much of a good family life either. So are you telling Dale he should quit trucking to protect his kids." Eric, I don't get the impression that's what Dave is saying at all. It's just a conversation about our jobs. The trend seems to be, as money gets to be less, people are forced to work more. Working more means less family time. Some people on the forum discuss topics and give out their personal experiences on how they've been more profitable. Some people on the forum get bent out of shape any time someone discusses a pro trucker argument....I've been flat ass broke before, and I don't plan to do it again. My family is my number one priority. I get out there, I do my job, and I get home! The biggest hindrance to that is government regulated hours of service, and low rates. I love my job and I am profitable, but it's a vollitile industry. In general, if the money was better and time was more flexible, trucking wouldn't struggle to get good people. That's what I get from Dave.

Replied on Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 09:35 AM CST

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Quote: "So are we all suppose to quit are jobs to stay home with our kids. Money isn't everything but without it not much of a good family life either. So are you telling Dale he should quit trucking to protect his kids."

Eric, I don't get the impression that's what Dave is saying at all. It's just a conversation about our jobs. The trend seems to be, as money gets to be less, people are forced to work more. Working more means less family time. Some people on the forum discuss topics and give out their personal experiences on how they've been more profitable. Some people on the forum get bent out of shape any time someone discusses a pro trucker argument....I've been flat ass broke before, and I don't plan to do it again. My family is my number one priority. I get out there, I do my job, and I get home! The biggest hindrance to that is government regulated hours of service, and low rates. I love my job and I am profitable, but it's a vollitile industry. In general, if the money was better and time was more flexible, trucking wouldn't struggle to get good people. That's what I get from Dave.

Replied on Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 03:32 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. This industry used to be more family friendly but today it’s a different story, because the truckers have negotiated themselves backwards, it makes zero sense to downplay the importance of family and home time but if a few of you do it the industry comes to expect it from all of us, it’s always been the truckers that sell each other out. We have heard complaints for sometime now about how nobody wants to work anymore, well the other day Selective Service posted a tweet on Twitter that raised some eyebrows, but it left me wondering if there were to be a draft would anyone in today’s generation even show up?

Replied on Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 03:32 PM CST

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This industry used to be more family friendly but today it’s a different story, because the truckers have negotiated themselves backwards, it makes zero sense to downplay the importance of family and home time but if a few of you do it the industry comes to expect it from all of us, it’s always been the truckers that sell each other out. We have heard complaints for sometime now about how nobody wants to work anymore, well the other day Selective Service posted a tweet on Twitter that raised some eyebrows, but it left me wondering if there were to be a draft would anyone in today’s generation even show up?

Replied on Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 09:16 PM CST - 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "This industry used to be more family friendly but today it’s a different story, because the truckers have negotiated themselves backwards, it makes zero sense to downplay the importance of family and home time but if a few of you do it the industry comes to expect it from all of us, it’s always been the truckers that sell each other out. We have heard complaints for sometime now about how nobody wants to work anymore, well the other day Selective Service posted a tweet on Twitter that raised some eyebrows, but it left me wondering if there were to be a draft would anyone in today’s generation even show up?" If the draft is reinstated anyone between the ages of 18 yrs old and 25 yrs old that was "born a male" will have to show up. Those that did a sex change from male to female will have to show up. If you dont you go to jail and/or pay a huge fine. Selective Service \| USAGov

Replied on Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 09:16 PM CST

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Quote: "This industry used to be more family friendly but today it’s a different story, because the truckers have negotiated themselves backwards, it makes zero sense to downplay the importance of family and home time but if a few of you do it the industry comes to expect it from all of us, it’s always been the truckers that sell each other out. We have heard complaints for sometime now about how nobody wants to work anymore, well the other day Selective Service posted a tweet on Twitter that raised some eyebrows, but it left me wondering if there were to be a draft would anyone in today’s generation even show up?"

If the draft is reinstated anyone between the ages of 18 yrs old and 25 yrs old that was "born a male" will have to show up. Those that did a sex change from male to female will have to show up. If you dont you go to jail and/or pay a huge fine.

Selective Service | USAGov

Replied on Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:12 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. WAY OFF TOPIC. Not sure how we got into military conversation when i commented about the TRUCKING PILOT PROGRAM

Replied on Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 01:47 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "WAY OFF TOPIC. Not sure how we got into military conversation when i commented about the TRUCKING PILOT PROGRAM" In the interest of getting back on topic the pilot program is for 18-20 year olds? How many of them will ever see the pilot program if there is a draft? The government must want us to start thinking about a draft, otherwise why would selective service be tweeting about it? Pilot program is kaput at that point.

Replied on Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 01:47 PM CST

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Quote: "WAY OFF TOPIC. Not sure how we got into military conversation when i commented about the TRUCKING PILOT PROGRAM"

In the interest of getting back on topic the pilot program is for 18-20 year olds? How many of them will ever see the pilot program if there is a draft? The government must want us to start thinking about a draft, otherwise why would selective service be tweeting about it? Pilot program is kaput at that point.

Replied on Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 03:09 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "In the interest of getting back on topic the pilot program is for 18-20 year olds? How many of them will ever see the pilot program if there is a draft? The government must want us to start thinking about a draft, otherwise why would selective service be tweeting about it? Pilot program is kaput at that point." There's always talk of a draft. Not sure what that has to do with the dislike of the pilot program. PLEASE ELABORATE what it has to do with the pilot program.

Replied on Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 03:09 PM CST

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Quote: "In the interest of getting back on topic the pilot program is for 18-20 year olds? How many of them will ever see the pilot program if there is a draft? The government must want us to start thinking about a draft, otherwise why would selective service be tweeting about it? Pilot program is kaput at that point."

There's always talk of a draft. Not sure what that has to do with the dislike of the pilot program. PLEASE ELABORATE what it has to do with the pilot program.

Replied on Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 04:33 PM CST - 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "There's always talk of a draft. Not sure what that has to do with the dislike of the pilot program. PLEASE ELABORATE what it has to do with the pilot program." You are correct that it has nothing to do with someone liking or disliking the pilot program, I was simply pointing out that there is a chance that it may not be implemented as soon as you think do to the current situation in global affairs, yes it’s true that individuals have mentioned the draft from time to time, however this is the first time I am aware of that the selective service itself has raised the issue in several decades, so it may be worth paying attention to, especially since we don’t see any politicians coming out and trying to down play it. I totally agree with you that the pilot program is a bad idea, because it does nothing to address the real problems, from what I can tell everyone here wishes they could go back to the way trucking used to be, I think that’s why Classic trucks are so popular, everyone wants to hold on to that image from the past, most don’t seem to like the direction the industry is going.

Replied on Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 04:33 PM CST

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Quote: "There's always talk of a draft. Not sure what that has to do with the dislike of the pilot program. PLEASE ELABORATE what it has to do with the pilot program."

You are correct that it has nothing to do with someone liking or disliking the pilot program, I was simply pointing out that there is a chance that it may not be implemented as soon as you think do to the current situation in global affairs, yes it’s true that individuals have mentioned the draft from time to time, however this is the first time I am aware of that the selective service itself has raised the issue in several decades, so it may be worth paying attention to, especially since we don’t see any politicians coming out and trying to down play it. I totally agree with you that the pilot program is a bad idea, because it does nothing to address the real problems, from what I can tell everyone here wishes they could go back to the way trucking used to be, I think that’s why Classic trucks are so popular, everyone wants to hold on to that image from the past, most don’t seem to like the direction the industry is going.

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