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Jul 26, 2022 at 04:46 PM CST
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I’m not sure how many of y’all saw my last post in the “There Go Those Rates” topic, if you didn’t I said I was heading out on a run to California. I’m typically not a long hauler, I’m more of an out and back person. We are headed home and in Deming New Mexico headed back to Texas. Why is it that EVERY truck blocking the fuel island is a Freightliner Cascadia, or International and alway hooked to a dry van? Also every time a 67 mile an hour truck truck pulled into the left lane to pass a 66 mph truck in front of a line of trucks running the speed limit, it was the same Dry vanners? Unbelievable.. Do they not teach slower traffic keep right and don’t block the fuel island in truck driving school?
Replied on Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 08:22 AM CST

Barry,,,what you are seeing is part of the reason I won't lease Freightliners or Volvos. They usually come with owners that have not a clue. And I have noticed in the last couple of years that most have changed there head attire. You don't see the wraps you use to. But, the Americans that are operating these plastic throw away units are just as bad if not worse. They do not have an iota of common sense. I have had so many cut me off when i am in left lane going for a pass, I expect it and prepare. There has always been a element of stupid in our industry, on the road, I am speaking from one that started over the road in 1977, that has never been fixed nor will it but it has gotten so bad. Loves I will hardly ever stop at or use because of the 30 minute breakers on the fuel island. They try to give me a card I won't use. Hate to say it but these places need a fuel island nazi, In the old days kind of had them, they would fill it up wash windows and pull up and park for you. If you let them.

I thought the very same thing when I seen the ad on bulk loads for 40K. I was thinking look out below.

Replied on Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 08:18 PM CST

We got home about an hour ago. I forgot to mention the Volvo drivers in my original post. Today, I saw a guy parked at the pumps come out with his shower bag and wet hair. Trucks were patiently waiting behind him. Yes, he got in a Cascadia pulling a dry van.. I bet it was an automatic too😂

I gave up on Loves when I couldn't go more than 4000 miles on a fuel filters. No more Loves, no more filters between oil changes. All the way to the west coast and back, not one hopper blocking the fuel island, no step decks, or tanks either. Not one truck with long hood blocked fuel islands, or traffic in the left lane. I don't know if it means anything, it's just an observation.

No more west coast for me...

Replied on Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 10:28 AM CST
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Mr. Bathrop I agree with most of your comments, but you're painting with a pretty wide brush. I believe most of the drivers doing what you describe are arrogant, disrespectful, and just plain stupid, BUT insulting a lot of good people shows disrespect and arrogance also. I understand your frustration but there are a lot of good people out here driving Internationals pulling dry vans, etc

Replied on Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 12:27 PM CST
This is what happens when when companies pay an entire staff of people for people to find suckers to come work for them. Shitty jobs draw shitty people. Combine that with a shitty truck stops and you get the trifecta of what you just experienced. However this new generation Of drivers has made it easier than ever to rise to the top. Unfortunately it's the top of a shit pile.
Replied on Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 03:52 PM CST
Quote: "Mr. Bathrop I agree with most of your comments, but you're painting with a pretty wide brush. I believe most of the drivers doing what you describe are arrogant, disrespectful, and just plain stupid, BUT insulting a lot of good people shows disrespect and arrogance also. I understand your frustration but there are a lot of good people out here driving Internationals pulling dry vans, etc "

Mr. Lentsch, I apologize if you were offended, or triggered by my comment. If you re-read my post, I was merely describing what I observed while on a trip out west. I'm not painting anything in particular. I was merely describing what I observed. I'm certain there are great people pulling dry vans. I did see several dry vans on my trip that weren't blocking the fuel island or the left lane, but they weren't being pulled by Freightliners, Volvos, or Internationals. I can only speak to what I observed during a 3,000 plus mile trip. If you pull a dry van with one of the above listed three, I would have taken note if I saw you, and given you the credit you deserve by company name in my original post. If I had seen you, it would be like having the winning lottery ticket. Before you or anyone else thinks I'm bashing Freightliners, Volvos, or Internationals, pump the brakes. I saw a hopper being pulled by a Freightliner, and an International, I saw numerous open decks, tanks, and pneumatics being pulled by the big three, however, the were not blocking the left lane or fuel islands. I am merely describing my observation....If you were the guy coming out of the truck stop with your shower bag and wet hair while parked in the fuel Island, get a Kenworth W900L, it is perfectly leagal to do whatever you want in the left lane or fuel island.. Take a 36 hour re-start in the fuel island you want. You get an I'm special card when you buy a W900L. JUST KIDDING😂

Replied on Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 04:11 PM CST

P.S. Does anybody know where a guy can get some of the windshield trim that goes across the cab and has the little cloth balls, or tassels hanging from it? I've been looking at the chrome shops but can't seem to find it. I'm not sure what it's called but if anyone comes across one that has black material with grey balls or tassels, grab it for me, or let me know where to get it..😎

Replied on Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 04:39 PM CST
Im really surprised all this stuff is new to you?? But I'm also pretty surprised that you think it's odd that a cascadia or Volvo are most commonly the idiot when there's 20 cascadia or Volvo to every 1 w900 or 389. And there's probably 100 dry vans to every 1 hopper....so logically there would be more idiots in them just on law of average. I'd bet 80 percent of those vans profit more per mile than a hopper. Respectfully, alot of your comments here show a huge inability to put yourself in someone else's shoes. Out on the open interstate slow pokes in the left lane is annoying, but only a complete crazy lunatic would drive in the face right lane in Chicago land, Atlanta area, Nashville, Dallas fort worth.... basically any big city has 20 cars merging into that lane probably every 1500 feet. Plus they are governed and have 400 horse so they can't change speed as quick as an owner op truck. As for the fuel island, did you bother to explain to Mr wet hair that your not supposed to do that? People won't know the ropes until they are taught. I have to turn my cb off when I talk to my kids so I don't have them listening to the garbage the "experienced super truckers" constantly complain about. Left lane, lights too bright, too long to pass....lights on at a truck stop.... sheesh. Stay classy
Replied on Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 04:54 PM CST

Mr. Bathrop, apology appreciated but not necessary. I did re-read your post and I understand you better now. I probably spouted off too soon. Hope I didn't offend you- have a good day.

Replied on Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 07:57 AM CST
Quote: "Im really surprised all this stuff is new to you?? But I'm also pretty surprised that you think it's odd that a cascadia or Volvo are most commonly the idiot when there's 20 cascadia or Volvo to every 1 w900 or 389. And there's probably 100 dry vans to every 1 hopper....so logically there would be more idiots in them just on law of average. I'd bet 80 percent of those vans profit more per mile than a hopper. Respectfully, alot of your comments here show a huge inability to put yourself in someone else's shoes. Out on the open interstate slow pokes in the left lane is annoying, but only a complete crazy lunatic would drive in the face right lane in Chicago land, Atlanta area, Nashville, Dallas fort worth.... basically any big city has 20 cars merging into that lane probably every 1500 feet. Plus they are governed and have 400 horse so they can't change speed as quick as an owner op truck. As for the fuel island, did you bother to explain to Mr wet hair that your not supposed to do that? People won't know the ropes until they are taught. I have to turn my cb off when I talk to my kids so I don't have them listening to the garbage the "experienced super truckers" constantly complain about. Left lane, lights too bright, too long to pass....lights on at a truck stop.... sheesh. Stay classy"

Like I stated initially, I don't typically long haul, and haven't run California in over 30 years. I realize there are way more dry vans than anything else out there but that doesn't change anything. I didn't specify where the left laners were so I will now. Interstate 10 west of San Antonio,Tx is 80mph all the way to New Mexico, where it drops to 75 all the way to the California line, all desert. I don't understand why a 65mph truck would hang out there passing no one for miles and not even consider moving right like all the signs clearly state. It seems like common sense to me that when you look in your mirror and see 10 trucks trying to get past, you get out of the way. I see no need to put myself in their shoes, if I did I would get out of the way. As far as the fuel island goes, it's pretty easy to figure out what the yellow line is for about 75 feet in front of the fuel island, and the signs also say to pull forward after fueling. I usually run Texas, to Louisiana and back. I don't typically see it as bad as I did going west. I also recently ran from Texas to Iowa and didn't notice it there either, so yes, actually it is new to me which is why I brought it up. I guess if I was a super trucker I would have known better. As far as hopper profit goes, I know the rates. I know some dry vanners, and see rates posted on DAT. I'm not saying hopper rates are great, but you can make basically the same money running shorter miles. I guess at the end of the day it has nothing to do with the equipment, it's the people. I did see some really nice Cascadias, Volvos, and Internationals, they just weren't doing the things I brought up in my initial post. As far as classy goes, I didn't call anyone idiots...It was just an observation...I do appreciate your reply. Have a good evening..

Replied on Mon, Aug 01, 2022 at 12:28 PM CST

I have a question how many gallons do shippers normally load on a food grade trailer I'm sure it probably depends on the product but would 6500 gallon trailer by ok for food grade????

Replied on Mon, Aug 01, 2022 at 09:08 PM CST

In my limited experience, yes, 6500 Gallons will be fine. More important than that, you need a trailer with in-transit heat, and a stainless steel food grade pump with hydraullics on your truck to run it. Most if not all of the trailers listed on Truck Paper are 3A Sanitary trailers. They are built for milk, juice, or water. They are not built for heated products. BIG DIFFERENCE... The food grade pump is about 12K minus the hydraullics.