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Dec 16, 2020 at 10:21 AM CST
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Good Morning To All Carriers/Owner Operators

Are you looking for a Dispatcher to keep you on the road, get the best rates possible, and work hard to get dedicated lanes for you, then please review my enclosed flyer and give our office a call. We are a 24-hour dispatching service and we aim to provide loads that suit your familiar and financial needs.

Antonia Barfield

Owner of Ninth Star Legacy Enterprise LLC

267-978-6416 or 800-988-3048

Replied on Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:59 PM CST

You say your a dispatcher and want to connect us owner operators with loads that meet our financial goals. So are you a broker? Are you licensed? Are you bonded? The only thing I can find about your company online is that it was formed on November 10th, 2020 and operates in an apartment in Philadelphia.

Company Name: NINTH STAR LEGACY ENTERPRISE LLC
File Number: 7161264
Filing State: Pennsylvania (PA)
Filing Status: Active
Filing Date: November 10, 2020
Company Age: 1 Month
Principal Address:
Map Icon spacer 209 S 50th St Apt A Philadelphia
, PA 19139

Replied on Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 07:33 AM CST
Quote: "You say your a dispatcher and want to connect us owner operators with loads that meet our financial goals. So are you a broker? Are you licensed? Are you bonded? The only thing I can find about your company online is that it was formed on November 10th, 2020 and operates in an apartment in Philadelphia. Company Name: NINTH STAR LEGACY ENTERPRISE LLC File Number: 7161264 Filing State: Pennsylvania (PA) Filing Status: Active Filing Date: November 10, 2020 Company Age: 1 Month Principal Address: 209 S 50th St Apt A Philadelphia, PA 19139 "

I know lots that do and a lot more lately, not sure if its because of covid
Replied on Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 12:00 PM CST
Quote: "You say your a dispatcher and want to connect us owner operators with loads that meet our financial goals. So are you a broker? Are you licensed? Are you bonded? The only thing I can find about your company online is that it was formed on November 10th, 2020 and operates in an apartment in Philadelphia. Company Name: NINTH STAR LEGACY ENTERPRISE LLC File Number: 7161264 Filing State: Pennsylvania (PA) Filing Status: Active Filing Date: November 10, 2020 Company Age: 1 Month Principal Address: 209 S 50th St Apt A Philadelphia, PA 19139 "

Good Afternoon Mr. Walton,

While my company is newly formulated, I do have 4 years of dispatching under my belt from a previous company I have worked for. My decision to form my own company was like anyone else's whereby I wanted to work hard and make money for my self offering a service that I am familiar with. As for my location, there are 6 units to this address and per the postal system, it has to be notified that way for correspondence purposes but this is actually a home. I stand by my statement that I provide a service that can get any driver/owner-operator loads that suit that needs, personally and financially. If you have any other concerns, please feel free to contact me at the number above.

Best Regards,

NSLE LLC

Replied on Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 12:00 PM CST
Quote: "I know lots that do and a lot more lately, not sure if its because of covid"

Good Afternoon Mr. Lemke,

While my company is newly formulated, I do have 4 years of dispatching under my belt from a previous company I have worked for. My decision to form my own company was like anyone else's whereby I wanted to work hard and make money for my self offering a service that I am familiar with. As for my location, there are 6 units to this address and per the postal system, it has to be notified that way for correspondence purposes but this is actually a home. I stand by my statement that I provide a service that can get any driver/owner-operator loads that suit that needs, personally and financially. If you have any other concerns, please feel free to contact me at the number above. Being a dispatcher does not require you to have a license, just knowledge of the trucking industry and if anything, I deal directly with shippers so that it takes out the necessity to have a broker unless there are backhauls.

Best Regards,

NSLE LLC

Replied on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 12:49 PM CST
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Good Morning. 4 yrs under your belt. Wow you must really be proud of yourself. Couple questions for you. 1. Have you ever owned and operated a truck? 2. Do you even know what bulk transportation is? 3. How many loads do you have direct? 4. Have you ever even dispatched a bulk load? 5. Would you haul cotton seed hulls on a walking floor belt end dump or hopper?
Replied on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 12:50 PM CST
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Can you provide profitable and non-offensive rates to the truck for the distances travelled and type of commodity?

Can you pay a truck $1500/day for honest, professional and consistent service based on legal operations under the federal HOS rules?

Do you take more than 10%? (5% is more acceptable to those who don’t mind using a dispatch service)

Trucks are much more expensive to operate than most brokers tend to accept or even understand so I must say, that if you are working directly with shippers, and only take 10%, then you have an opportunity to be a reputable and profitable broker/dispatcher.

if you offer $1.95 and think it’s acceptable while you take 50, 60, 70% then it will be a struggle for you to find the quality carriers required for a professional appearance.

Im not knocking your attempt t reaching out, it’s exactly opposite. If you have direct shippers, and can make our operation some money, then SURE, I am interested.

Clarify if you are brokering for direct shippers or are you dispatching for direct shippers...there is a large difference between the required authority and insurances.

Replied on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 04:27 PM CST
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Quote: "Good Afternoon Mr. Walton, While my company is newly formulated, I do have 4 years of dispatching under my belt from a previous company I have worked for. My decision to form my own company was like anyone else's whereby I wanted to work hard and make money for my self offering a service that I am familiar with. As for my location, there are 6 units to this address and per the postal system, it has to be notified that way for correspondence purposes but this is actually a home. I stand by my statement that I provide a service that can get any driver/owner-operator loads that suit that needs, personally and financially. If you have any other concerns, please feel free to contact me at the number above. Best Regards, NSLE LLC"

But you didn't answer any of my questions...are you Licensed? And are you bonded? That is what protects people like me from people like you.

Replied on Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 04:12 PM CST
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Quote: "But you didn't answer any of my questions...are you Licensed? And are you bonded? That is what protects people like me from people like you."

These dispatch service people require you to sign power of attorney paperwork to find you loads. I laughed at everyone of them who tell me this. My question is who in their right mind would sign power of attorney to someone they probably don't know
Replied on Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 09:06 PM CST
Quote: "These dispatch service people require you to sign power of attorney paperwork to find you loads. I laughed at everyone of them who tell me this. My question is who in their right mind would sign power of attorney to someone they probably don't know"

A even better question would be, what kind of fool would want the government to take away their authority to book loads directly from a shipper using their own MC number, and become solely dependent on brokers for all their loads? Seems counterproductive.
Replied on Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 02:37 PM CST
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Quote: "A even better question would be, what kind of fool would want the government to take away their authority to book loads directly from a shipper using their own MC number, and become solely dependent on brokers for all their loads? Seems counterproductive. "

Hello Mr. Winters,

To answer your question, each broker or even dispatcher may have within the words of their contracts the term "power of attorney", it merely means permission from the driver to book loads for them and to receive a fee for that service. In no way are you giving up your independence; I can't speak for a broker because I am not that, I am a dispatcher and our main focus is to deal directly with the shipper on your behalf to get the loads you want and handle the back office of it all while all you have to do as the driver is drive.

NSLE LLC

Replied on Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 02:37 PM CST
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Quote: "These dispatch service people require you to sign power of attorney paperwork to find you loads. I laughed at everyone of them who tell me this. My question is who in their right mind would sign power of attorney to someone they probably don't know"

In the word of trucking Sir, power of attorney only refers to the permission you, as the driver, give us, the dispatcher, permission to find loads for you so all you have to do is concentrate on driving to pick up a load and drop it off. The same way you are required to provide your DOT, MC, proof of insurance, and authority to the shipper or broker to be able to move a load is the same way you would have to provide it to a dispatcher who is doing the same thing for you

Replied on Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 02:38 PM CST
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Quote: "But you didn't answer any of my questions...are you Licensed? And are you bonded? That is what protects people like me from people like you."

Good afternoon Mr. Walton,

As I have already mentioned, I am not a broker (which is someone that has to be licensed and bonded), I am a dispatcher and I do not need a license to deal with a shipper. All the shipper needs are to make sure the person who is carrying their load had their MC, DOT, authority, and insurance up to date and that is to protect them if something happens to their load. This again is why it is being provided to the dispatcher since it is the dispatcher who is booking the load for you

Thank you,

NSLE LLC

Replied on Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 02:38 PM CST
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Quote: "Can you provide profitable and non-offensive rates to the truck for the distances travelled and type of commodity? Can you pay a truck $1500/day for honest, professional and consistent service based on legal operations under the federal HOS rules? Do you take more than 10%? (5% is more acceptable to those who don’t mind using a dispatch service) Trucks are much more expensive to operate than most brokers tend to accept or even understand so I must say, that if you are working directly with shippers, and only take 10%, then you have an opportunity to be a reputable and profitable broker/dispatcher. if you offer $1.95 and think it’s acceptable while you take 50, 60, 70% then it will be a struggle for you to find the quality carriers required for a professional appearance. Im not knocking your attempt t reaching out, it’s exactly opposite. If you have direct shippers, and can make our operation some money, then SURE, I am interested. Clarify if you are brokering for direct shippers or are you dispatching for direct shippers...there is a large difference between the required authority and insurances."

Good Afternoon Mr. Tilley,

The first answer to your question is yes, I can provide profitable and non-offensive rates for any truck as I know this is how you earn your living and how you take care of your families. I would want someone to do the same for me if I were out there driving.

The second answer to your question is nothing in life is guaranteed, however, I do have access to direct shippers who would pay as close to 1500.00 as I could get them. I don't know if it would be daily since it would depend on the load and where it is going and of course trying to eliminate deadhead miles for you, as the driver, to go pick it up.

Again, I am a dispatcher who works directly with shippers, I only use brokers in cases of backhauls only.

My fee is 9%

It would not only be unfathomable to try to charge 9% or 1.95 a mile for a load, but it would also be impossible for either of us to make a profit, much less for you to take care of your variable and fixed expenses.

I am aware of the differences between the need for authority and insurances when it comes to brokering for a direct shipper and dispatching from a direct shipper.

Thank you,

NSLE LLC

Replied on Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 02:39 PM CST
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Quote: "Good Morning. 4 yrs under your belt. Wow you must really be proud of yourself. Couple questions for you. 1. Have you ever owned and operated a truck? 2. Do you even know what bulk transportation is? 3. How many loads do you have direct? 4. Have you ever even dispatched a bulk load? 5. Would you haul cotton seed hulls on a walking floor belt end dump or hopper? "

Good Afternoon Jace King,

First and foremost, I'm sure this forum is meant to vet drivers and well as loads, shipments, etc. It does appear that there is a slight innuendo of sarcasm which is completely understandable. I recognize that you and any other driver would want for someone to see moving freight from their end of the spectrum so let me answer those questions for you: I have never owned a truck before, however, my child's father does and I have been taught to operate it and dispatch for him. Bulk freight and transportation are generally items that are sold in weight or volume as opposed to individuals pieces, for example, gasoline (liquid) or grains (solids). I have not dispatched a bulk load before but know how to and as far as how many direct loads I have......well, you'll have to work with me to get that answer.

Thank you,

NSLE LLC

Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 08:46 AM CST
Quote: "Good afternoon Mr. Walton, As I have already mentioned, I am not a broker (which is someone that has to be licensed and bonded), I am a dispatcher and I do not need a license to deal with a shipper. All the shipper needs are to make sure the person who is carrying their load had their MC, DOT, authority, and insurance up to date and that is to protect them if something happens to their load. This again is why it is being provided to the dispatcher since it is the dispatcher who is booking the load for you Thank you, NSLE LLC"

Ok, next question. Since you are using my authority to book shipments for me, who does the shipper pay? Since you aren't licensed and bonded to be a broker in my mind the shipper would have to pay me, correct? If they pay you directly, then you send me a check I don't understand how that would not be brokering freight? A quick google search turned up this:

A freight broker is an intermediary between a shipper and freight service provider.
Freight brokers can specialize in certain types of freight, such as equipment hauling on lowboys, oversize, bulk tanker, auto, or other types of freight transportation.
A freight broker in the United States must be licensed by the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Administration (FMCSA)

I guess there are loopholes in about every law, I personally will not haul freight for broker that can't protect me without a bond. To me a 'dispatch service' to be legal would have to have the shipper pay the trucking company and then you hope the trucking company pays you. But I still don't understand what we would be paying you for? You can not - LEGALLY - take freight from a shipper, give it to a trucker, and keep a percantage of the the freight bill, pay the trucker less and call it anything but brokering freight. You simply can not spin that.

And it's not even that hard to be legal, thats what I dont understand. A $300 license fee, a $1300 bond, and a $60 process agent. If you can't afford that to be legal then I don't trust you.

Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 09:33 AM CST

Hey Wes, I see what you're getting at in your post, and your point. I would just point out that I pay significantly more than $1300 for bonding and insurance (add a zero and then some) but as I've always understood it that a dispatch service should be handling your billing as well, but billing under your company flag.

Jon at our company runs his own version of a dispatch service, but it's through our broker authority, and no special contracts other than the carrier agreement that we have every carrier sign. So we do all billing, etc under our company name, pay the truck, and deal with collecting separately. As far as fees go that's a better question for Jon directly, but the biggest cost we see is $5/$1000 is the rate for bonding, insurance, etc. So if your truck makes $1500 per day, I'm paying $7.50 for insurance (roughly) + petty costs of postage, labor time for billing etc.

As with anything in business there's costs. I know that these non-broker dispatch services are legal, but I'm not sure how everything works if say their customer doesn't pay you. My guess is the dispatch service is shielded from liability, since they don't have to carry a bond or insurance, whereas our version here at SFS would still fall under our bond because we technically are brokering everything.

What is most interesting here though is the 9% fee... I won't go into our details, like I said that's a better question for Jon privately, but if he's pulling 9% on a "dispatched" load (as compared to traditional spot brokered) we'd typically be doing next day quickpays on it.

If a broker gets 10% on a load, that 1% extra gets you a bond, additional insurance, another liable party, etc. Food for thought.

Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 09:44 AM CST
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Quote: "Ok, next question. Since you are using my authority to book shipments for me, who does the shipper pay? Since you aren't licensed and bonded to be a broker in my mind the shipper would have to pay me, correct? If they pay you directly, then you send me a check I don't understand how that would not be brokering freight? A quick google search turned up this: A freight broker is an intermediary between a shipper and freight service provider.Freight brokers can specialize in certain types of freight, such as equipment hauling on lowboys, oversize, bulk tanker, auto, or other types of freight transportation.A freight broker in the United States must be licensed by the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Administration (FMCSA) I guess there are loopholes in about every law, I personally will not haul freight for broker that can't protect me without a bond. To me a 'dispatch service' to be legal would have to have the shipper pay the trucking company and then you hope the trucking company pays you. But I still don't understand what we would be paying you for? You can not - LEGALLY - take freight from a shipper, give it to a trucker, and keep a percantage of the the freight bill, pay the trucker less and call it anything but brokering freight. You simply can not spin that. And it's not even that hard to be legal, thats what I dont understand. A $300 license fee, a $1300 bond, and a $60 process agent. If you can't afford that to be legal then I don't trust you."

Is anyone forcing you to use a dispatch service, or is it a choice? Essentially what I hear you saying is that you want the government to protect you from yourself. The dispatch service can do nothing, without your approval. Additionally as you pointed out, the dispatch service does not have their own MC number, so therefore they cannot legally book loads on their own, so that also means that they cannot enforce a no complete clause against you, since they are prohibited from the market without their own MC number, so if you enter into a agreement with them and it don’t work out, your not locked out of that segment of the market, so that in and of itself provides a major benefit to YOU. How many brokers can you say that about?
Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 09:58 AM CST
Quote: "Is anyone forcing you to use a dispatch service, or is it a choice? Essentially what I hear you saying is that you want the government to protect you from yourself. The dispatch service can do nothing, without your approval. Additionally as you pointed out, the dispatch service does not have their own MC number, so therefore they cannot legally book loads on their own, so that also means that they cannot enforce a no complete clause against you, since they are prohibited from the market without their own MC number, so if you enter into a agreement with them and it don’t work out, your not locked out of that segment of the market, so that in and of itself provides a major benefit to YOU. How many brokers can you say that about? "

I want 2 things, for people to operate legally & for me to be protected from guys or gals that can't or won't pay me for my service. That is the regulation the government provides me...but only if brokers follow the rules. A dispatching service skirts around the rules.

Just above whoever it is that started this thread talks about keeping 9% or whatever. They could keep 100%, or file bankruptcy and you really have no recourse - that is the protection of the bond.

Bottom line...this outfit has customers but no trucks. They find the trucks, provide them with freight, and hopefully pay the said trucker minus a fee. Still don't understand how this is anything but a brokerage. Kinda one of those sounds like a duck, looks like a duck things

Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 10:18 AM CST

I'm confused on this service ..

Are you a W-9 employee for the carrier you are working for then ?

How do you set up carrier packets?

how much do you charge?

I drove and dispatched for my old employer as a employee .

I could not Dispatch a load that a truck was not leased on ..

I now "dispatch" for a few guys I know

I checked a few different ways to get back into Ways to Keep working with my direct ship customers which is possible but complicated

I could have became a w-9 employee for each trucking company or shipper i worked with.

For simplicity I had to become a broker..

I consider myself a "dispatcher"

Because I route some of my trucks round trip And I have trucks that just call when they cant find a connecting route

And I was fortunate enough to find an established company to where I can charge a low enough "fee"

To make my trucks profitable in a cut rate world

And keep more money into the trucks

Good luck out there

Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 10:32 AM CST

Also ...

Does the Shipper pay You and You pay the Truck?

Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 10:37 AM CST

Personally..

I started my service to help get trucks networked to shippers to get more money to the truck and out of the pockets of the Greedy brokers in the bulk world .. Not to Line My Pockets

If you have $3 plus freight and a a broker is paying $2 on the loaded mile

1. You better be finding that truck round trip loads right back nearby

2. The truck finds better freight they will bail on you and leave you stuck looking bad

3. Eventually the truck will go broke.

Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 11:34 AM CST
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Quote: "I'm confused on this service .. Are you a W-9 employee for the carrier you are working for then ? How do you set up carrier packets? how much do you charge? I drove and dispatched for my old employer as a employee . I could not Dispatch a load that a truck was not leased on .. I now "dispatch" for a few guys I know I checked a few different ways to get back into Ways to Keep working with my direct ship customers which is possible but complicated I could have became a w-9 employee for each trucking company or shipper i worked with. For simplicity I had to become a broker.. I consider myself a "dispatcher" Because I route some of my trucks round trip And I have trucks that just call when they cant find a connecting route And I was fortunate enough to find an established company to where I can charge a low enough "fee" To make my trucks profitable in a cut rate world And keep more money into the trucks Good luck out there "

Let’s look at this from another angle, say you are a carrier who is suffering and needs business, I previously worked for a major shipper as a clerk in the shipping department, and I still have good relationships with previous meggashipper that I used to work for, I could keep 50 trucks busy 24-7, 365 days a year, if I owned a fleet of trucks, but I don’t. How many of you would like to hire me on as a dispatcher for your operation? Well transportation workers are allowed to be independent contractors are they not? ( Remember AB-5). See now I am really having fun, because the same industry that lobbied to protect the independent contractor model, is now suddenly opposed tho it? That’s the best entertainment I could hope for, priceless.
Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 01:40 PM CST
Quote: "Ok, next question. Since you are using my authority to book shipments for me, who does the shipper pay? Since you aren't licensed and bonded to be a broker in my mind the shipper would have to pay me, correct? If they pay you directly, then you send me a check I don't understand how that would not be brokering freight? A quick google search turned up this: A freight broker is an intermediary between a shipper and freight service provider.Freight brokers can specialize in certain types of freight, such as equipment hauling on lowboys, oversize, bulk tanker, auto, or other types of freight transportation.A freight broker in the United States must be licensed by the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Administration (FMCSA) I guess there are loopholes in about every law, I personally will not haul freight for broker that can't protect me without a bond. To me a 'dispatch service' to be legal would have to have the shipper pay the trucking company and then you hope the trucking company pays you. But I still don't understand what we would be paying you for? You can not - LEGALLY - take freight from a shipper, give it to a trucker, and keep a percantage of the the freight bill, pay the trucker less and call it anything but brokering freight. You simply can not spin that. And it's not even that hard to be legal, thats what I dont understand. A $300 license fee, a $1300 bond, and a $60 process agent. If you can't afford that to be legal then I don't trust you."

Good Afternoon,

To answer this next question, once you have signed a carrier packet and a load has been booked for you, payments can be made in a few fashions; 1. can be a factoring company, I currently use TAFS or quick pay because no wants to wait a week to 30 days to get paid. A dispatcher also serves as an intermediary between a shipper and a carrier, the difference being the broker charges a higher fee than that of a dispatcher, and whoever said a dispatcher cannot book loads for carriers/owner-operators is wrong, we absolutely can and that is why we exist. Of course, using a dispatcher or broker is your choice so if you choose to not use either, then you are free to book your own freight. A Broker or a Dispatcher merely serve to save you the headache of invoicing, collecting payment, and booking freight; we want you to concentrate on getting your load where it has to go.....well at least I do, I cannot speak for all Brokers and Dispatchers

Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 01:49 PM CST
Quote: "Hey Wes, I see what you're getting at in your post, and your point. I would just point out that I pay significantly more than $1300 for bonding and insurance (add a zero and then some) but as I've always understood it that a dispatch service should be handling your billing as well, but billing under your company flag.Jon at our company runs his own version of a dispatch service, but it's through our broker authority, and no special contracts other than the carrier agreement that we have every carrier sign. So we do all billing, etc under our company name, pay the truck, and deal with collecting separately. As far as fees go that's a better question for Jon directly, but the biggest cost we see is $5/$1000 is the rate for bonding, insurance, etc. So if your truck makes $1500 per day, I'm paying $7.50 for insurance (roughly) + petty costs of postage, labor time for billing etc. As with anything in business there's costs. I know that these non-broker dispatch services are legal, but I'm not sure how everything works if say their customer doesn't pay you. My guess is the dispatch service is shielded from liability, since they don't have to carry a bond or insurance, whereas our version here at SFS would still fall under our bond because we technically are brokering everything.What is most interesting here though is the 9% fee... I won't go into our details, like I said that's a better question for Jon privately, but if he's pulling 9% on a "dispatched" load (as compared to traditional spot brokered) we'd typically be doing next day quickpays on it. If a broker gets 10% on a load, that 1% extra gets you a bond, additional insurance, another liable party, etc. Food for thought."

Good Afternoon Mr. Preston,

Thank you for letting everyone know that a Dispatch Service is legal and again I would like to say that any Dispatcher worth his/her weight in salt would want to make sure the Owner Operator/Carrier gets the best loads that shipper have to offer. There is a certain liability that a Dispatcher would have which would be being blackballed if they do not vet Owner Operators/Carriers to make sure their MC#, DOT#, authority, and insurance are up to par and something happens to the hipper's loads; no one would want to work that dispatcher anymore. As I mentioned in my other post, I cannot speak for all Dispatchers or all Brokers, I can only speak for what I would do as a Dispatch Servicer. As far as the fee of 9% goes, it merely means that whatever the load is paying (for instance, 1,000 just as an example), my percentage of that would be $90. When I vet a Carrier or Owner Operator, I would want to know what their fixed and variable costs are, with knowing that percentages could be adjusted accordingly so that way my service is compensated, the Carrier/Owner Operator's fixed and variable costs are paid and profit after that goes to the Carrier/Owner Operator.

Thank you,

NSLE LLC

Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 01:59 PM CST
Quote: "Also ... Does the Shipper pay You and You pay the Truck?"

Once I get a load booked, I invoice the shipper who signs off on the agreed-upon amt for the load, it is then sent to the factoring company who then pays the driver the same day or the next day. I would receive my compensation within that week or within 30 days. Like I said before, Brokers charge a higher fee than a dispatcher does. Sometimes Brokers will turn over dispatching a load to a dispatcher and what the driver doesn't know is now he or she is adding two more entities to his/her already fixed or variable costs; the Broker's fee and the Dispatcher's fee. Why do that when the Dispatcher has direct contact with the shippers just like brokers do? My responsibility as a Dispatcher is to make sure I map out a trip plan that will get you to and from the origin for your pick up and get you to your freights' destination.

NLSE LLC

Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 02:31 PM CST
Quote: "I'm confused on this service .. Are you a W-9 employee for the carrier you are working for then ? How do you set up carrier packets? how much do you charge? I drove and dispatched for my old employer as a employee . I could not Dispatch a load that a truck was not leased on .. I now "dispatch" for a few guys I know I checked a few different ways to get back into Ways to Keep working with my direct ship customers which is possible but complicated I could have became a w-9 employee for each trucking company or shipper i worked with. For simplicity I had to become a broker.. I consider myself a "dispatcher" Because I route some of my trucks round trip And I have trucks that just call when they cant find a connecting route And I was fortunate enough to find an established company to where I can charge a low enough "fee" To make my trucks profitable in a cut rate world And keep more money into the trucks Good luck out there "

Good Afternoon Mr. Luebke,

To answer your questions: I am not a W-9 employee for the Carrier, I am an Independent Dispatch Service 1099

I have a generalized Carrier packet that I received help in setting up from my Mentor and was advised on what needs to be put within it so the Carrier is under the full understanding of what my service entails.

In my initial post, I did say that whoever needs dispatching services must have their own truck with equipment and insurance, their own authority, Dot#, and MC# so of course, I would need a copy of those things before I could book loads for them. The shipper is going to want to make sure these things are in order as well.

As also mentioned, percentages for my services can be adjusted depending up the amount the load pays and the consistency in which loads are booked.

I realize how cut-rate this industry is and especially because it is male-dominated but I aim to provide a service that is professional and will make sure i get the best loads a carrier is looking for that suits their needs.

Thank you,

NSLE LLC

Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 02:31 PM CST
Quote: "Is anyone forcing you to use a dispatch service, or is it a choice? Essentially what I hear you saying is that you want the government to protect you from yourself. The dispatch service can do nothing, without your approval. Additionally as you pointed out, the dispatch service does not have their own MC number, so therefore they cannot legally book loads on their own, so that also means that they cannot enforce a no complete clause against you, since they are prohibited from the market without their own MC number, so if you enter into a agreement with them and it don’t work out, your not locked out of that segment of the market, so that in and of itself provides a major benefit to YOU. How many brokers can you say that about? "

That is the purpose for the signing of the Carrier packet which states that the Carrier/Driver/Owner Operator will work with me in getting them loads. If anything the Carrier/Driver/Owner Operator is allowed to have more than one dispatcher; it's about making sure they get profitable loads, however, just because a Carrier/Driver/Owner Operator uses more than one dispatcher, he or she cannot just go to another dispatcher for the same load; that is the purpose for the non-compete agreement.

NSLE LLC

Replied on Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:11 AM CST
Quote: "That is the purpose for the signing of the Carrier packet which states that the Carrier/Driver/Owner Operator will work with me in getting them loads. If anything the Carrier/Driver/Owner Operator is allowed to have more than one dispatcher; it's about making sure they get profitable loads, however, just because a Carrier/Driver/Owner Operator uses more than one dispatcher, he or she cannot just go to another dispatcher for the same load; that is the purpose for the non-compete agreement. NSLE LLC"

The way I see it, if your treating the guy right there is no reason for him to back door you, however by law you as a dispatcher can not complete against the carrier if your not licensed to operate in the market by the government (i.e. having a MC number), so you can put anything in your contract you want, but it will be deemed unenforceable in court.
Replied on Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:11 AM CST
At the heart of all these discussions is the low rates, and uncompensated detention times, it always comes back to this no matter how these threads start out, therefore I think our energy would be better spent focusing on that, at some point we as a industry have to look in the mirror. The ATA claims to represent us, but can anyone out there name one thing the ATA has done to address the pay problem? Seems like they are more interested in funneling money into these drug testing labs, and sleep apnea clinics, so some shareholders somewhere can get rich. (What’s the connection?). The only image of trucking they want the public to see, is one from fantasyland where all truckers are rich and fart rainbows.
Replied on Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:12 AM CST
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Quote: "Let’s look at this from another angle, say you are a carrier who is suffering and needs business, I previously worked for a major shipper as a clerk in the shipping department, and I still have good relationships with previous meggashipper that I used to work for, I could keep 50 trucks busy 24-7, 365 days a year, if I owned a fleet of trucks, but I don’t. How many of you would like to hire me on as a dispatcher for your operation? Well transportation workers are allowed to be independent contractors are they not? ( Remember AB-5). See now I am really having fun, because the same industry that lobbied to protect the independent contractor model, is now suddenly opposed tho it? That’s the best entertainment I could hope for, priceless. "

I might hire you as long as you were a legit broker with a bond, authority, paid your bills, and you didn’t charge too much for your service..Additionally, if you are suffering and need business, I seriously doubt hiring a dispatcher will save you. This is fun...😉
Replied on Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:12 AM CST
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Quote: "Good Afternoon Mr. Preston, Thank you for letting everyone know that a Dispatch Service is legal and again I would like to say that any Dispatcher worth his/her weight in salt would want to make sure the Owner Operator/Carrier gets the best loads that shipper have to offer. There is a certain liability that a Dispatcher would have which would be being blackballed if they do not vet Owner Operators/Carriers to make sure their MC#, DOT#, authority, and insurance are up to par and something happens to the hipper's loads; no one would want to work that dispatcher anymore. As I mentioned in my other post, I cannot speak for all Dispatchers or all Brokers, I can only speak for what I would do as a Dispatch Servicer. As far as the fee of 9% goes, it merely means that whatever the load is paying (for instance, 1,000 just as an example), my percentage of that would be $90. When I vet a Carrier or Owner Operator, I would want to know what their fixed and variable costs are, with knowing that percentages could be adjusted accordingly so that way my service is compensated, the Carrier/Owner Operator's fixed and variable costs are paid and profit after that goes to the Carrier/Owner Operator. Thank you, NSLE LLC"

To vet a carrier or owner operator you want to know their cost of doing business? Seriously? 😳
Replied on Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 11:37 AM CST
Quote: "To vet a carrier or owner operator you want to know their cost of doing business? Seriously? 😳"

I guess I found it funny how someone who is basically a employee dependent on the carrier, thinks that their boss can’t complete against them, basically attempting to give orders to their boss, who hired them. This is significant in the realm of law because it shows intent that the dispatch service is by de facto a brokerage, and gives the government a foot in the door to shut them down.
Replied on Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 11:37 AM CST
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Quote: "The way I see it, if your treating the guy right there is no reason for him to back door you, however by law you as a dispatcher can not complete against the carrier if your not licensed to operate in the market by the government (i.e. having a MC number), so you can put anything in your contract you want, but it will be deemed unenforceable in court. "

Good Afternoon Mr. Winters,

On reiteration terms, I will advise again that as a Dispatcher, I can legally book loads for anyone who chooses me as their Dispatcher. I do not need to be licensed by the government in order to do this under the FMCSA. What I seem to notice is perhaps you have had some dealings with a Dispatcher who did not behave professionally or make sure you got the most profitable loads they could have obtained for you, that is no recourse to under-cut all dispatchers. I am just someone who decided to create a service to help others, I have done my research beforehand, and am still doing research t make sure I stay up on the latest of changes in the trucking world. If you so choose to not utilize my services, then by all means that is your choice. I have behaved very professionally on this forum toward whomever I communicate with and I would appreciate the same courtesy. Please have a nice day Mr. Winters and I wish you much success in your trucking endeavors.

Thank you,

NSLE LLC

Replied on Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 12:37 PM CST
Quote: "To vet a carrier or owner operator you want to know their cost of doing business? Seriously? 😳"

Good Afternoon Mr. Balthrop,

The answer to your question is Yes, I would want to know a ballpark estimated monthly figure, that would help me look for the best loads for them to take care of those expenses and make a nice profit. Make sense?

NSLE LLC

Replied on Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 12:37 PM CST
Quote: "Good Afternoon Mr. Winters, On reiteration terms, I will advise again that as a Dispatcher, I can legally book loads for anyone who chooses me as their Dispatcher. I do not need to be licensed by the government in order to do this under the FMCSA. What I seem to notice is perhaps you have had some dealings with a Dispatcher who did not behave professionally or make sure you got the most profitable loads they could have obtained for you, that is no recourse to under-cut all dispatchers. I am just someone who decided to create a service to help others, I have done my research beforehand, and am still doing research t make sure I stay up on the latest of changes in the trucking world. If you so choose to not utilize my services, then by all means that is your choice. I have behaved very professionally on this forum toward whomever I communicate with and I would appreciate the same courtesy. Please have a nice day Mr. Winters and I wish you much success in your trucking endeavors. Thank you, NSLE LLC"

For me personally I have no issue with you, or any dispatch service, this is just a educational opportunity on this thread, to explain everyone’s options, and why and how they exist, it’s clear there is a lot of confusion out there, wether government allows dispatch services to remain legal or not remains to be seen, they operate in a very gray area that’s never been tested before in court, now lawyers in the government are looking at it.
Replied on Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 08:42 AM CST
Quote: "For me personally I have no issue with you, or any dispatch service, this is just a educational opportunity on this thread, to explain everyone’s options, and why and how they exist, it’s clear there is a lot of confusion out there, wether government allows dispatch services to remain legal or not remains to be seen, they operate in a very gray area that’s never been tested before in court, now lawyers in the government are looking at it."

Good Morning Mr. Winters,

You are correct, there is a lot of confusion out there and the sad part is that there is always one bad apple that spoils the bunch for everyone involved in the trucking industry; in any industry really, you will find individuals doubling dealing and being dishonest to make a profit. For me though, I have a strict moral code that comes behind everything I do, including now, business. I aim to be the exception to the rule of dishonesty. I'm under no illusion that I'm unknown in the trucking world but stepping out there now to make myself known and to show forth what I can offer. As I said before, I cannot speak for all dispatchers or brokers, I can only speak to what I will do as a dispatcher. I also have no issue with government and law taking a look at how dispatcher do business as I feel that everyone should be held liable is something is not done according to the law but as for now, I am conducting myself according to the law provided and will conform if or when it changes. Even though I am in the process of getting my MC#, DOT#, authority, and insurance, if I add a carrier under that, they would now be my employee and they may not want that, they may want to retain some sort of independence of just me getting loads for them; which I have no problem with. Have a great day Mr. Winters

NSLE LLC

Replied on Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 11:04 AM CST
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Then only red flag I saw or see is your response to $1500 per day, when I mention a truck needs $1500 in revenue per day, it means that if I haul a load that is 2400 miles and takes four days from the time I load to the time I unload, it should be 4X1500 at least. Of if a load takes half a day, at least $750.
Our truck time is worth $1500 every 24 hours of being “under a load” but yet, brokers and dispatchers that double broker seem to think a $500 per day is acceptable.
Would you only work to earn enough to pay your BMW and laptop payment? I don’t think so.
Some of us out here have six figure investments.
Note to all brokers; take only 5% and move 50 loads per week and you’ll be a Rick star and have the best carriers at your disposal, and then continue to be fair and honest. We need that lions share of what the shipper is actually paying because we can only deal with only 3 - 5 loads per week.
Get loads at $5 per mile (after doing the per ton, bushel math and adjust the rate for shorter miles accordingly) then take your 10%, then eventually weed out the bad carriers and create a network of quality service providers for your shippers.
You’ll have two BMWs before you know it and we’ll be able to keep tires and fuel on our trucks.
Simple, non-greedy approach.
Seems too many new millennials watched a you tube “be a broker” video and want to take 50% of one or two loads and not work harder than that for the week.
Replied on Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 09:45 PM CST
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Quote: "Good Afternoon Mr. Balthrop, The answer to your question is Yes, I would want to know a ballpark estimated monthly figure, that would help me look for the best loads for them to take care of those expenses and make a nice profit. Make sense? NSLE LLC"

YOU are a fool.

Replied on Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 09:45 PM CST

What are ur rates on average

Replied on Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 06:35 AM CST
Then only red flag I saw or see is your response to $1500 per day, when I mention a truck needs $1500 in revenue per day, it means that if I haul a load that is 2400 miles and takes four days from the time I load to the time I unload, it should be 4X1500 at least. Of if a load takes half a day, at least $750.
Our truck time is worth $1500 every 24 hours of being “under a load” but yet, brokers and dispatchers that double broker seem to think a $500 per day is acceptable.
Would you only work to earn enough to pay your BMW and laptop payment? I don’t think so.
Some of us out here have six figure investments.
Note to all brokers; take only 5% and move 50 loads per week and you’ll be a Rick star and have the best carriers at your disposal, and then continue to be fair and honest. We need that lions share of what the shipper is actually paying because we can only deal with only 3 - 5 loads per week.
Get loads at $5 per mile (after doing the per ton, bushel math and adjust the rate for shorter miles accordingly) then take your 10%, then eventually weed out the bad carriers and create a network of quality service providers for your shippers.
You’ll have two BMWs before you know it and we’ll be able to keep tires and fuel on our trucks.
Simple, non-greedy approach.
Seems too many new millennials watched a you tube “be a broker” video and want to take 50% of one or two loads and not work harder than that for the week.
Replied on Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 09:41 PM CST
Quote: "Good Afternoon Mr. Balthrop, The answer to your question is Yes, I would want to know a ballpark estimated monthly figure, that would help me look for the best loads for them to take care of those expenses and make a nice profit. Make sense? NSLE LLC"

Actually, no it doesn’t. If we follow that thought process you shouldn’t have any problem providing your cost of doing business so we can make sure you aren’t overcharging for your service. Make sense? I saw that exact idea on a YouTube dispatcher training “mentor’s” channel. 🙄
Replied on Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 07:00 AM CST
Quote: "Good Morning Mr. Winters, You are correct, there is a lot of confusion out there and the sad part is that there is always one bad apple that spoils the bunch for everyone involved in the trucking industry; in any industry really, you will find individuals doubling dealing and being dishonest to make a profit. For me though, I have a strict moral code that comes behind everything I do, including now, business. I aim to be the exception to the rule of dishonesty. I'm under no illusion that I'm unknown in the trucking world but stepping out there now to make myself known and to show forth what I can offer. As I said before, I cannot speak for all dispatchers or brokers, I can only speak to what I will do as a dispatcher. I also have no issue with government and law taking a look at how dispatcher do business as I feel that everyone should be held liable is something is not done according to the law but as for now, I am conducting myself according to the law provided and will conform if or when it changes. Even though I am in the process of getting my MC#, DOT#, authority, and insurance, if I add a carrier under that, they would now be my employee and they may not want that, they may want to retain some sort of independence of just me getting loads for them; which I have no problem with. Have a great day Mr. Winters NSLE LLC"

I don't know much about any of this and that is why I am reading this. Starting my own company and needing knowledge.

As I see it , basically all entreprenuers start out with no credibility . You earn that by doing good business. So hiring you or not should not be soley based upon being a new business

Seem quite honest to me. I hope you do well and prosper

Replied on Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 05:27 PM CST
Quote: "What are ur rates on average "

On average, my rates are 9% on the load booked.

Thank you,

NSLE LLC

Replied on Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 05:27 PM CST
Quote: "Actually, no it doesn’t. If we follow that thought process you shouldn’t have any problem providing your cost of doing business so we can make sure you aren’t overcharging for your service. Make sense? I saw that exact idea on a YouTube dispatcher training “mentor’s” channel. 🙄"

Hello Mr. Balthrop,

As I have explained to you before, my rate is 9% per load booked for the carrier.

NSLE LLC

Replied on Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 05:28 PM CST
Quote: "I don't know much about any of this and that is why I am reading this. Starting my own company and needing knowledge. As I see it , basically all entreprenuers start out with no credibility . You earn that by doing good business. So hiring you or not should not be soley based upon being a new business Seem quite honest to me. I hope you do well and prosper "

Good afternoon Mr. Killion,

Thank you Sir for your vote of confidence and you are correct; a company is only worth its weight in gold when they show how good they conduct business. I pride myself on being very transparent and as honest as possible but unfortunately, you will always find those who are ready to bury a hatchet in your head before you get the opportunity to show your worth.

NSLE LLC

Replied on Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 05:28 PM CST
Quote: "I don't know much about any of this and that is why I am reading this. Starting my own company and needing knowledge. As I see it , basically all entreprenuers start out with no credibility . You earn that by doing good business. So hiring you or not should not be soley based upon being a new business Seem quite honest to me. I hope you do well and prosper "

Mr Killion,

I hope you do well as prosper just as much, good luck to you.

NSLE LLC

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 07:50 AM CST
Quote: "Hello Mr. Balthrop, As I have explained to you before, my rate is 9% per load booked for the carrier. NSLE LLC"

That answer does not relate to your statement.

You said you think you need to know my cost of operation so you have a better idea what a "nice profit" on a load woould be for me. Please re-read the above.

My response was, if you need to know what my cost of operation is, I should have access to your cost. 9% is your fee. I understand that. What are your costs to justify the 9% (your cost of operation). Based on your thought process I should get to see your cost to make sure you are not making a "nicer profit" than you really need to.

I also see you totally dodged the YouTube part of the statement...

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 08:26 AM CST
Quote: "That answer does not relate to your statement. You said you think you need to know my cost of operation so you have a better idea what a "nice profit" on a load woould be for me. Please re-read the above. My response was, if you need to know what my cost of operation is, I should have access to your cost. 9% is your fee. I understand that. What are your costs to justify the 9% (your cost of operation). Based on your thought process I should get to see your cost to make sure you are not making a "nicer profit" than you really need to. I also see you totally dodged the YouTube part of the statement..."

That makes sense to me. May I suggest if she stick with the carriers with the highest operating costs she could charge the customer a higher rate in order to provide the carrier with a handsome rate. Therefore she could acheive her handsome profit at a lower percentage.

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 09:26 AM CST
Quote: "Good Afternoon Mr. Preston, Thank you for letting everyone know that a Dispatch Service is legal and again I would like to say that any Dispatcher worth his/her weight in salt would want to make sure the Owner Operator/Carrier gets the best loads that shipper have to offer. There is a certain liability that a Dispatcher would have which would be being blackballed if they do not vet Owner Operators/Carriers to make sure their MC#, DOT#, authority, and insurance are up to par and something happens to the hipper's loads; no one would want to work that dispatcher anymore. As I mentioned in my other post, I cannot speak for all Dispatchers or all Brokers, I can only speak for what I would do as a Dispatch Servicer. As far as the fee of 9% goes, it merely means that whatever the load is paying (for instance, 1,000 just as an example), my percentage of that would be $90. When I vet a Carrier or Owner Operator, I would want to know what their fixed and variable costs are, with knowing that percentages could be adjusted accordingly so that way my service is compensated, the Carrier/Owner Operator's fixed and variable costs are paid and profit after that goes to the Carrier/Owner Operator. Thank you, NSLE LLC"

My 2 cents, i am a broker and fleet owner, my insurance made me split my truck company from the broker side of things and have 2 insurance policies, and a bond. i charge 9% and the truck receves there payment within 2 to 4 days after each load. how fast do you Pay?, do you handel the paperwork?

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 02:28 PM CST
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Quote: "Can you provide profitable and non-offensive rates to the truck for the distances travelled and type of commodity? Can you pay a truck $1500/day for honest, professional and consistent service based on legal operations under the federal HOS rules? Do you take more than 10%? (5% is more acceptable to those who don’t mind using a dispatch service) Trucks are much more expensive to operate than most brokers tend to accept or even understand so I must say, that if you are working directly with shippers, and only take 10%, then you have an opportunity to be a reputable and profitable broker/dispatcher. if you offer $1.95 and think it’s acceptable while you take 50, 60, 70% then it will be a struggle for you to find the quality carriers required for a professional appearance. Im not knocking your attempt t reaching out, it’s exactly opposite. If you have direct shippers, and can make our operation some money, then SURE, I am interested. Clarify if you are brokering for direct shippers or are you dispatching for direct shippers...there is a large difference between the required authority and insurances."

You don’t even make that now per day so quit blowing smoke. Good grief. You’re a very rude person. Show us all you MAKE $1500 a day!
Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 02:28 PM CST
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Quote: "Good Afternoon, To answer this next question, once you have signed a carrier packet and a load has been booked for you, payments can be made in a few fashions; 1. can be a factoring company, I currently use TAFS or quick pay because no wants to wait a week to 30 days to get paid. A dispatcher also serves as an intermediary between a shipper and a carrier, the difference being the broker charges a higher fee than that of a dispatcher, and whoever said a dispatcher cannot book loads for carriers/owner-operators is wrong, we absolutely can and that is why we exist. Of course, using a dispatcher or broker is your choice so if you choose to not use either, then you are free to book your own freight. A Broker or a Dispatcher merely serve to save you the headache of invoicing, collecting payment, and booking freight; we want you to concentrate on getting your load where it has to go.....well at least I do, I cannot speak for all Brokers and Dispatchers"

Do you know what the factoring companies really charge? Don’t tell me it’s only 2-5% unless you actually do the math CORRECTLY!
Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 05:06 PM CST
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WOW! I read through this thread and saw more dancing than on dancing with the stars!

If you need to send your bills to a factoring company on my companies behalf to get us paid, it is VERY shady! Our company does not, nor has ever needed a factoring company! That is just added expense to get your money a couple days early AND the recourse is still on you if the shipper does not pay! People wake up! If you need a fly by night service to make yourself profitable then you are doing something wrong! Good service and sticking to your word will do more for you reputation than a dispatch service!

UFF! What will people think of next to take money out of pockets without having any skin in the game!

Keith

ET Trucking

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:28 PM CST
Quote: "WOW! I read through this thread and saw more dancing than on dancing with the stars! If you need to send your bills to a factoring company on my companies behalf to get us paid, it is VERY shady! Our company does not, nor has ever needed a factoring company! That is just added expense to get your money a couple days early AND the recourse is still on you if the shipper does not pay! People wake up! If you need a fly by night service to make yourself profitable then you are doing something wrong! Good service and sticking to your word will do more for you reputation than a dispatch service! UFF! What will people think of next to take money out of pockets without having any skin in the game! Keith ET Trucking"

Well said. It's amazing that people don't see what's right in front of them. I think dispatch services only exist because of people trying to be independent without the experience or knowledge to make it on their own.

Replied on Fri, Jan 01, 2021 at 10:12 AM CST
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Quote: "Then only red flag I saw or see is your response to $1500 per day, when I mention a truck needs $1500 in revenue per day, it means that if I haul a load that is 2400 miles and takes four days from the time I load to the time I unload, it should be 4X1500 at least. Of if a load takes half a day, at least $750. Our truck time is worth $1500 every 24 hours of being “under a load” but yet, brokers and dispatchers that double broker seem to think a $500 per day is acceptable. Would you only work to earn enough to pay your BMW and laptop payment? I don’t think so. Some of us out here have six figure investments. Note to all brokers; take only 5% and move 50 loads per week and you’ll be a Rick star and have the best carriers at your disposal, and then continue to be fair and honest. We need that lions share of what the shipper is actually paying because we can only deal with only 3 - 5 loads per week. Get loads at $5 per mile (after doing the per ton, bushel math and adjust the rate for shorter miles accordingly) then take your 10%, then eventually weed out the bad carriers and create a network of quality service providers for your shippers. You’ll have two BMWs before you know it and we’ll be able to keep tires and fuel on our trucks. Simple, non-greedy approach. Seems too many new millennials watched a you tube “be a broker” video and want to take 50% of one or two loads and not work harder than that for the week. "

Now your telling him how much he can make? Funny guy you are.
Replied on Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 07:33 AM CST

Im going to post this info about pay. Just food for thought not directed at anyone on this forum.

I just found this out from my accountant. I worked as 1099 driver for company X. X had no authority so they leased me to company Z which just was for running under their authority. I got my loads from another company that I pulled their trailer.

Now load company was their own broker. They would pay out to company Z who would take their share and send our pay to comany X, my employer.

Company Z was skimming a couple hundred off the top. Accountant found that.

Then instead of doing anything about it , did not want to loose a authority to run under I guess, Company X just took 200 bucks a week off drivers pay.

Crooked crap going on . But not the broker.