Bulk freight rates

Hello Michael, we try to encourage brokers and shippers on the load board to post rates and as many details as possible to limit unproductive calls for both parties, but we do not mandate rates due to competion between companies. We do have a system called BulkTMS that allows shippers and brokers to post with rates to only verified carriers and encourage all our shippers and brokers to use BulkTMS to make communication much easier for all parties if they do not wish to share rates publicly.

Nick, I appreciate the response. I will give Bulk TMS a try....

I've been saying this all along

10-4.

Curiosity arrives...when I log into Circle A brokers web page and look at available hopper loads, takes me to Bulkloads.com website. In fact BL entire website. (Must have BL membership) So not only are the 9 out of 10 loads on BL is a 2nd broker repost, now Circle A takes that load from the #2. So probably no double brokering going on here(and another rate cut)...yeah right. Spoke w Levi at BL yesterday and knew nothing of this. Said he would look into this. Did BL find another source of income?

Steve, you are not wrong. Maybe instead of blaming Bulk Loads admin we should do a better job on our end of identifying turd brokers. If the load is listed incorrectly i.e wrong town, or wrong product description we should be flagging the load.... If we all did our due diligence the problem would fix itself.

Just a bunch of guys fighting over 2 dollar freight..thats what bokers want..cause the winner will haul the s*** 4 a dollar...and broker puts the rest in his pocck

Walmart and Target put a price on the shelf no negotiations there. I understand free market competition .The broker has to make a living and according to a recent article brokers now can be liable for carrier and driver safety negligence. But the broker knows or could find out a reasonable estimate of how much a carrier has to have to keep their trucks running. If I were a broker(there is too much risk now) I would try not to insult the men and women who move our country. We have all heard of drivers would not take these cheap loads then maybe they would pay more. Could also be said if brokers negotiated higher rates with shippers then maybe we could all make it. Good brokers thank you. You know the trucker has to have a reasonable rate to keep moving freight on time and safely Cheap brokers why don't you get a truck and haul a few of your own insulting priced loads

This is very true, but a lot of brokers have an established price range with the shipper. So if a broker has an agreement with the shipper to provide 10 trucks a week for $3.50 a mile but doesn't post a rate in the hopes he/she can convince a couple trucks to run for $2.50 a mile... If you call that same broker with the intention of running that load/loads for no less than $3.80 a mile you are probably wasting your time..... Maybe I'm missing something....

My intention was/is to draw attention to this issue... and it worked. I got a phone call from a member of Bulk Loads admin and we talked a few minutes on the issue of rates and product description. My take away from the conversation was that I needed to be a little more proactive in eliminating the habitual turd brokers from my load search i.e block or flag the brokers who always post the wrong pickup and delivery locations, or the brokers posting incorrect product description just to "protect" their loads. This is up to us to fix.

i am asking

if enough people ( carriers) block a broker that post misleading information or doesnt post enough information

can and or will admin be able to step in and help change it or remove that broker

if that happens enough would the problem fix itsself ?

i know it means more wasted time up front but if enough people put a broker on thier blocked list ( with a small explanation )is that enough to change things?

Thinning the herd. How else are you going to do it? If it is capitalism, well apparently the supply has exceeded the demand. Anyone going to surrender without kicking and screaming? Someone has to go. Who's it going to be? If the over burden would just quit, those remaining could hold their rates. Right?

B*******!!! You want bulk loads to drive the truck too? Run yer business and use bulk loads as a GUIDE! Learn how to do what others are not willing to do. Be different. We all need to do better to (get better rates) make a living wage. Don't blame the messenger. And don't blame me either. I'm just telling the truth. If ya don't like it, move on and keep blaming other! have a nice year!

Why use brokers then? Why are you here b******* about brokers on a load board??? Wow, some kind of ---use it as a tool to find what you want, or stop using brokers, and do it yourself. My gawd. Maybe take a course in economics. Supply n demand. Just the truth. Sorry

Douglas, did you re read your post? There is too much risk? WTH? and you complain about brokers making too much? Send that one to Larry the Cable Guy.

I'm not being a jerk...just the d*** truth. Most of these posts bashing brokers are funny. DON'T USE THEN THEN! Do it yerselves. Try contacting the shippers maybe you can get a better rate. But just try it, and don't bash the hands that feed ya now. Do you think there are brokers that read these comments? By the way, I challenge any of you to know how much of a percentage a broker makes. 20%? 30%? you will be hard pressed to find the average making over 8-10% I'll bet!

So I assume you are gonna start yer broker business today? beings how brokers make the money? Why do you still drive? better call Saul, and get into the broker biz, and you can do the same as all the brokers! Seems pretty simple to me. let me know when you get yours up and running...heck let us all know, then, you can be the only broker that... IS NOT SCREWING THE CARRIERS!!!!!

Good brokers instead of hood

Doug, I'll start by saying I'm a broker. It would be nice if all brokers played nice, but that is just not how it works. It is so enticing for the customer, who the broker has a relationship with, go with another broker that comes in and cuts the rates. They get 10+ calls a day from brokers and carriers. I don't care the relationship you build with a shipper, eventually you're going to lose it on price. When things are slow, it's even worse. The only time you can negotiate better prices is when everyone is busy and the supply of freight is higher than the amount of trucks, and that is not right now. I try to do right by both carrier and shipper, but these cheap brokers are kicking my a** too.

For some reason the video starts off part way along, but if you move the ticker back to the beginning you will catch the part where our economy was only growing at 2 percent, while China's economy is growing at 6-9 percent, i.e. their eating our lunch.

i dont think the equipment production changed at all

what you said was exactly right

just because new companies started does not mean more equipment was built

i think more used equipment was used longer than normal

i am not sure how to measure how much more freight was moved (if any)because more people got to stay home without a fear of loss disrupting supply chains either at the manufacture level all the way to the retail level

by fear of loss i mean during the pandemic people could not get fired or evicted or a whole host of other things if they felt like they may have covid or at least the symtoms of it and did not go to work

what really just happened?it was not a economic boom in trucking did the spot rates go up because of all of the people not working during the pandemic that keep a very delicate logistics industry moving

i have heard for most of my adult life that if all of the trucks stop even for just one 24 hour period that our economy will go into a tail spin from hell the worst depression we have ever seen

if that is true ( and we have a shortage of drivers 80,000) why isnt trucking one of the most lucrative professions to be a part of ?

Hello Michael we have spoke in the past and we appreciate the feedback from the forum. Iron sharpens iron and we are working with carriers, brokers, and shippers to continue making this load board better even in times like this. We do have Bulkloads+ which allows carriers to be dispatched loads directly. I can go over this with you or anyone else that would like more information or visit Bulkloads+ and check it out.

I parked my truck last fall. I figured by now I'd see a bounce back in rates. Wow was I wrong. I can't believe the s*** being listed. Please can I pay to haul your freight?

Dave, You can say Damn on the load board, I doubt anyone would be offended, hell you might even feel better!

No Michael, same ole s***, you haven't missed a thing.

Do brokers/farmers/shippers have to pay to posts loads?