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Broker , Who do you use?

Mar 22, 2021 at 01:25 PM CST
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Do not want to hear from brokers. Nothing personal. Just want to hear from O/O.

Im getting close to being ready to roll and need to get all my eggs in one basket so Im not sitting around for a month twiddling my thumbs. Hopefully funding comes through !

Need a good grain broker that knows Kansas and surrounding area. One that does not just want to load you with DDG because I will not haul that.

I have hauled grain with no DDg's, so yes , it can be done.

Seems a lot better to ask someone from around these parts who they use , instead of just choosing a broker and hoping they know what they are doing.

Replied on Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 07:52 AM CST
I'm on with NORAG. Maybe give them a call??
Replied on Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 07:54 AM CST
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Well eventhough I think you are the problem rather than the next generation to lead us forward, if you were to go back through the files and do your homework rather than require someone older to do it for you there is only one broker in your backyard to call. Duane Geiselman at Furnace County. Straight shooter, good rates, knowledgeable, pays on time. Good luck. Art Pfluger
Replied on Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 07:54 AM CST
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Quote: "Well eventhough I think you are the problem rather than the next generation to lead us forward, if you were to go back through the files and do your homework rather than require someone older to do it for you there is only one broker in your backyard to call. Duane Geiselman at Furnace County. Straight shooter, good rates, knowledgeable, pays on time. Good luck. Art Pfluger"

Ah, P.S. if you haven't already pissed him off Jim is close to you. Trustworthy. Art Pfluger
Replied on Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 07:54 AM CST
I'm on with NORAG. Maybe give them a call. Not sure what else
Replied on Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 01:32 PM CST
Quote: "Well eventhough I think you are the problem rather than the next generation to lead us forward, if you were to go back through the files and do your homework rather than require someone older to do it for you there is only one broker in your backyard to call. Duane Geiselman at Furnace County. Straight shooter, good rates, knowledgeable, pays on time. Good luck. Art Pfluger"

Well I have no idea where you get your thoughts from but I am certainly not the next generation and likely could be older than you.

As far as brokers in my backyard, there are lots of people around here that claim to be brokers. Well, to fair, maybe they are but do they know how to do a good job, honest etc.

I have not asked anyone to do my anything for me. I simply asked who you use as a broker. Evidently I value your opinions as O/O over all the brokers and scam artists that are not brokers that infest this forum. I dont want to try and weed out who is a broker and who is a scam artist.

I see no harm in asking others what broker they use. It is no different than reading reviews online which I am sure you do for products or services that you are considering.

Anyway. thanks for the broker info.

Replied on Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 01:32 PM CST
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Quote: "Ah, P.S. if you haven't already pissed him off Jim is close to you. Trustworthy. Art Pfluger"

What makes you think I would have already pissed him off ?

Replied on Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 01:33 PM CST
Quote: "I'm on with NORAG. Maybe give them a call. Not sure what else"

Thank you.

Replied on Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 07:35 AM CST
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No disrespect, just reading your post, & other's responses. If you handle business transactions like you've handled the advice given, it's plain to see why you're asking folks about brokers. I've seen your type come & go like tumble weeds in the wind over the years. A big mouth & a fancy chromed up bucket of bolts don't make ya a truck driver! My advice to ya would be to (1)figure out just how far from home you figure ya can get without adult supervision. (2)Just how long do you want to be out at a stretch? (3)What will or will you not haul? (4)What will your equipment & permits handle? (5)Figure out how much you've got to have per r/m to keep trucking. (6)Learn to take care of & maintain your own equipment. And (7) stay out of the casinos & chrome shops. Once you've got that all figured out, then start looking for a broker, or broker(s), that can keep you in your rpm range, along with where & what you want to haul. Be honest with them about your intentions, & STAY WITH THOSE BROKERS THROUGH HELL & BACK! My next advice would be to discuss all this with your family, if you're a family type fellow. (1)Just how much time are you honestly willing to give up to be away from your family??? (2)Does your family need you to be within a 500 mile range of home? (3)How much money is it going to take to look after your family & bills? (4)If so, make the sacrifices & do it!! It may sound to you like I'm talking down to you, when in reality, I'm passing 43 years of blood, sweat, tears, & damned hard trucking advice on to ya. I am a 4th generation old school truck driver. I learned what I know from my Grandfather, Great Uncle, & my Father's school of hard knocks. By making mistakes, getting up & dusting myself off & going back for more. Take all that to heart! The trucking business ain't no office job. It's our way of life!!
Replied on Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 07:36 AM CST
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Sometimes its easier to tell someone who to avoid rather than who to use. Jom Nolte, Furnace County, Northern AG, Pro Star Ventures and more are good people. TQL, King of Freight, Watco Supply, some of the brokers that run their own trks or guys working at a brokerage that own trks are bad choices. Obviously you know who gets the best loads. Your going to have to learn by fire like the rest of us. The forum has tons of old threads you can view. I strongly urge you to use them for knowledge. Gavilon has been good to us. There are good people on this site. Wading thru it can be daunting. Art Pfluger
Replied on Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 03:00 PM CST
Quote: "Sometimes its easier to tell someone who to avoid rather than who to use. Jom Nolte, Furnace County, Northern AG, Pro Star Ventures and more are good people. TQL, King of Freight, Watco Supply, some of the brokers that run their own trks or guys working at a brokerage that own trks are bad choices. Obviously you know who gets the best loads. Your going to have to learn by fire like the rest of us. The forum has tons of old threads you can view. I strongly urge you to use them for knowledge. Gavilon has been good to us. There are good people on this site. Wading thru it can be daunting. Art Pfluger"

Gavilon. I forgot about them. I used to haul grain from their facility here in Wichita. How ever now I might have to find someone to lease onto for a short time. I am fairly certain I can get local freightliner to finance a truck for me. Probably not enough cash left to do a trailer and still have plenty to operate on. I want a newer truck cuz I dont want others problems. Been driving them trucks for 13 years. Too many breakdowns. Them isx are great for the mechanic shop but not me. That has put 3 people I worked for out of business.

seems startup loans are very hard to get these days. I should have went at this while I still had a good paying job. (they went out of business last fall). But I think 15K down on a decent truck should work. Might just have to put up with working where I dont want to till I got cash for a trailer.

Finding a company to lease to that , that pays well, and comes home every weekend is a problem. Thought about Oakley but dont think they can get me home every weekend.

But anyway. Thanks for the names. I will save them. Going to need them when I get this figured out.

Replied on Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 11:09 AM CST

Does NORAG handle people in central Missouri? I've just started up a one truck operation this year and I'm looking to find someone that can keep me busy instead of sitting around every time it rains

Replied on Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 03:36 PM CST
Quote: "Does NORAG handle people in central Missouri? I've just started up a one truck operation this year and I'm looking to find someone that can keep me busy instead of sitting around every time it rains"

I talked with them. He said they have lots of work. loads that go all states and canada. Wherever you want to run.
Replied on Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 03:36 PM CST
Quote: "Does NORAG handle people in central Missouri? I've just started up a one truck operation this year and I'm looking to find someone that can keep me busy instead of sitting around every time it rains"

I talked with mitchell at the omaha office. Also have an office in KC
Replied on Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 12:47 PM CST
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Northwest Transportation Services also has some really good brokers!

Replied on Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 03:32 PM CST
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Dont put all your eggs in one basket!

Replied on Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 07:24 AM CST
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I use Redwood Group.

Replied on Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 07:38 AM CST

those who are successful in this game do not give away thier contacts i could give you my book and you would fail you sir are part of the problem with the industry and trucking in general. your type come and go and do nothing but cut the rates go find yourself a job as a driver or another profession.

Replied on Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 09:47 PM CST
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I just wouldn't use a broker unless I couldn't get anything figured out for myself. Some people can get out and hustle and make it, but there's less and less of them anymore. Some people just have to be told where and when and don't see the picture without direction. But just cause they have a nice truck with some extras doesn't mean they are part of the problem! I've heard more loudmouth cb rambo's driving beat up Columbia's and Volvo white's than the guys who are just driving a fancy Big truck!

Replied on Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 09:47 PM CST
Quote: "those who are successful in this game do not give away thier contacts i could give you my book and you would fail you sir are part of the problem with the industry and trucking in general. your type come and go and do nothing but cut the rates go find yourself a job as a driver or another profession."

He is a driver. He works Monday-Friday, and wants to transition to an O/O with those same parameters...πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
Replied on Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 09:12 PM CST
Quote: "He is a driver. He works Monday-Friday, and wants to transition to an O/O with those same parameters...πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ"

Well for your info, I did this exact same thing as a company driver. There was nothing around here to do on a weekend except once in a while get a load that delivered on monday. I made a grand a week so obviously there is money in it or they could not pay me that. I was home through the week now and then. Long enough to take a shower etc and sometimes do my 10 hours.

I have loads now, as I have a broker, that bring me right back home often. Get a load this way. do my 34. head off to deliver it or get another. So where is the problem here?

If you guys need to live in your truck longer than 1 week then that is what you must do. I just prefer to get loads that allow me to do it at home.

As for your buddy you replied to , he can go pound sand. He has a bad attitude and he is very rude.

Replied on Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 07:45 AM CST
Quote: "Well for your info, I did this exact same thing as a company driver. There was nothing around here to do on a weekend except once in a while get a load that delivered on monday. I made a grand a week so obviously there is money in it or they could not pay me that. I was home through the week now and then. Long enough to take a shower etc and sometimes do my 10 hours. I have loads now, as I have a broker, that bring me right back home often. Get a load this way. do my 34. head off to deliver it or get another. So where is the problem here? If you guys need to live in your truck longer than 1 week then that is what you must do. I just prefer to get loads that allow me to do it at home. As for your buddy you replied to , he can go pound sand. He has a bad attitude and he is very rude. "

You should ditch your company name. It makes it hard to take you serious.

Replied on Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 06:09 PM CST
Quote: "You should ditch your company name. It makes it hard to take you serious."

Well it's me and my dog. Actually was two dogs trucking but when I searched that I found that just in ok and ks there were quite s few with ing and in' . Do I did s name change to en and bought the domain name also. I am already leased under a friend's Authority and will be hauling loads next week .
Replied on Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 06:09 PM CST
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Quote: "He is a driver. He works Monday-Friday, and wants to transition to an O/O with those same parameters...πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ"

By the way, the person that I use authority from runs m-f. Seems to do just fine all these years. Sometimes you just have to work less to have more. Can't say as I will always run m-f . But it is my goal. I am not trying to do anything but pay for the truck and my rent etc. Don't care much beyond that. I'm old and don't gonna be around much longer do no need to make lots of cash
Replied on Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 06:09 PM CST
Quote: "I just wouldn't use a broker unless I couldn't get anything figured out for myself. Some people can get out and hustle and make it, but there's less and less of them anymore. Some people just have to be told where and when and don't see the picture without direction. But just cause they have a nice truck with some extras doesn't mean they are part of the problem! I've heard more loudmouth cb rambo's driving beat up Columbia's and Volvo white's than the guys who are just driving a fancy Big truck!"

Once I get morecsdh back in account, buying truck was a bit pricey, I will buy my own trailer so I can haul my own loads . But am thinking I would still work with the company I am hauling for now . I am fairly sure they will make me good money
Replied on Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 10:20 PM CST
Quote: "those who are successful in this game do not give away thier contacts i could give you my book and you would fail you sir are part of the problem with the industry and trucking in general. your type come and go and do nothing but cut the rates go find yourself a job as a driver or another profession."

Why do you think I would haul cheap freight ? That goes not pay the bills. Had I known asking for some advice was going to bring down the entire trucking industry, I would not have asked about the super top secret btojer list.
Replied on Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 10:20 PM CST
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Quote: "I use Redwood Group."

Thanks. I do not see why some people think asking for s good recommendation is such a bad thing to do. I would think they would want to help others avoid bad brokers and cheap freight rates. Maybe they are scared there is not enough grain to go around.
Replied on Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 10:20 PM CST

(7) stay out of the casinos & chrome shops...WHAAAAAAAT? 😳😒

Damn Brad, that one is a little tough. 😎

Replied on Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 10:21 PM CST
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Quote: "By the way, the person that I use authority from runs m-f. Seems to do just fine all these years. Sometimes you just have to work less to have more. Can't say as I will always run m-f . But it is my goal. I am not trying to do anything but pay for the truck and my rent etc. Don't care much beyond that. I'm old and don't gonna be around much longer do no need to make lots of cash"

Great, another one of these "I just need make the same I'm making as a company driver, but now I can tell everyone I'm an O/O...πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ
Replied on Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 08:18 AM CST
Quote: "(7) stay out of the casinos & chrome shops...WHAAAAAAAT? 😳😒 Damn Brad, that one is a little tough. 😎"

All of my gambling sits in the driveway... Go stainless. Chrome rusts.

Replied on Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 08:19 AM CST
Quote: "Great, another one of these "I just need make the same I'm making as a company driver, but now I can tell everyone I'm an O/O...πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ"

Exactly, If you don't care how much money you make, just go lease a truck from JBHunt or Swift and call it done. You get late model equipment, run when you want, get to be an owner operator, (in name only), and finally you won't make much money... WINNING🀠

Replied on Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 08:24 AM CST
Quote: "Sometimes its easier to tell someone who to avoid rather than who to use. Jom Nolte, Furnace County, Northern AG, Pro Star Ventures and more are good people. TQL, King of Freight, Watco Supply, some of the brokers that run their own trks or guys working at a brokerage that own trks are bad choices. Obviously you know who gets the best loads. Your going to have to learn by fire like the rest of us. The forum has tons of old threads you can view. I strongly urge you to use them for knowledge. Gavilon has been good to us. There are good people on this site. Wading thru it can be daunting. Art Pfluger"

Sometimes its easier to tell someone who to avoid rather than who to use. Jom Nolte, Furnace County, Northern AG, Pro Star Ventures and more are good people. TQL, King of Freight, Watco Supply, some of the brokers that run their own trks or guys working at a brokerage that own trks are bad choices. Obviously you know who gets the best loads. Your going to have to learn by fire like the rest of us. The forum has tons of old threads you can view. I strongly urge you to use them for knowledge. Gavilon has been good to us. There are good people on this site. Wading thru it can be daunting. Art Pfluger

Make sure the brokers you deal with aren't in a UPS Store/Virtual Office(google address with UPS Store or Virtual office and it will reveal itself), if they call you from a number different than the one listed with the FMCSA, call the number listed with the FMCSA and verify that person works for that broker. Art is exactly right, it is often times easier to tell you who not to pull a load for than who to pull for. If you factor they should give you some guidance, if you are fortunate enough not to have to, then do 2x as much due diligence before you move a load. Nothing will mess up the future of a trucking company as much as moving a fraudulent load you won't be paid for, right when you start.

Replied on Mon, May 24, 2021 at 11:28 AM CST

Earnest Freight Solutions is a good company. They have great relationships with shippers and have access to different loads all over the US. Often times the loads are dedicated. I would reach out them!

Earnest Freight Solutions EFS 510.771.2821

Replied on Mon, May 24, 2021 at 11:28 AM CST
Quote: "Does NORAG handle people in central Missouri? I've just started up a one truck operation this year and I'm looking to find someone that can keep me busy instead of sitting around every time it rains"

Norag does do central Missouri. NWTS is another great brokerage that will keep you busy where ever you want to be.

Replied on Mon, May 24, 2021 at 03:56 PM CST
Northwest is great if you want to run Nationwide...60Β° and sunny in Phoenix one day and -20 and a blizzard in Grand Forks ND two days later in January....or they send 6 trucks to Joshua TX on Friday and have with no idea yet how to get them out of there on Monday after they unload....
Replied on Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 08:48 AM CST
Quote: "I use Redwood Group."

I hauled a short corn load for them. Unfortunately at least as far as this load board goes there is not much worth doing. All I have found is 1 way loads. Almost nothing from south Kansas that would pay to haul. Got a broker now I work with but that is not doing well. Got 2 loads this week. 3 last . Need at least 5 that pay minimum of 800.00. This load board is full of 1 way 3-400 loads. Still can't find a broker that can run me in this 5 state area. I refuse to be turned into a otr driver. Not my thing.
Replied on Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 07:33 AM CST
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Quote: "I hauled a short corn load for them. Unfortunately at least as far as this load board goes there is not much worth doing. All I have found is 1 way loads. Almost nothing from south Kansas that would pay to haul. Got a broker now I work with but that is not doing well. Got 2 loads this week. 3 last . Need at least 5 that pay minimum of 800.00. This load board is full of 1 way 3-400 loads. Still can't find a broker that can run me in this 5 state area. I refuse to be turned into a otr driver. Not my thing."

What are you actually looking for in a broker?? We know of several good ones. We run 15 to 25 hoppers on any given day. Find ones that keep you moving in an area that you are happy with and at a rate that you need to make a good living at. Hubby has been an o/o since the early 2000.

Replied on Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 03:12 PM CST
Quote: "What are you actually looking for in a broker?? We know of several good ones. We run 15 to 25 hoppers on any given day. Find ones that keep you moving in an area that you are happy with and at a rate that you need to make a good living at. Hubby has been an o/o since the early 2000. "

Well I used to be company driver till about 6 years ago. Changed to pneumatic. We hauled to all kinds of small town co-ops and other places. Always had back hauls of fertilizer or grain. But now I got at it and find nothing but dirt cheap grain loads going one way from all the shippers and brokers. I get a few good loads but no back hauls. Live in Wichita KS. Prefer to just run around in the surrounding states . Texas to south Dakota .... Have to be home a couple days a week so weekends are good since most places closed anyway Art have me a name of a good guy in Nebraska . 53 trucks. Told me what I want just don't exist right now. He switched to all otr . I been doing okay last couple weeks. But need more brokers that can fill in the dead spots I find myself in or would like to go to. Like Texas. I can run good paying loads to around Rice, Tx. But can't find a load back. If I had a decent load back, I could do nothing but that Texas load. I run midds to OKC for 800.00. no load back. If I had one I would do nothing but that run. Just tough going. I have had good paying loads but broker want to turn me into otr and that is not for me .
Replied on Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 07:09 PM CST
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Hey Marcus. I started out own my own a while back. I made sure I had my own freight, my own authority, my truck and trailer (s). I think thats a better deal than just owning the tractor. I haul a couple states around Iowa, home most nights, kinda depends on the money. If its good, I'm just like anyone else, I get gready and will stay out while the cash is good. Make it when you can!! And you need to see where your trying to work. If the money aint real good around there, I wouldn't haul there very often. And don't be afraid to knock some doors yourself. I would say if you haul for someone with steady freight lanes, you might do ok. But its really amazing to meet a customer, start to work for them, and then to have them tell you thanks for your hard work. It is really nice to get emails, phones calls from them asking you to haul from them. I haul grain during harvest time, I do $5000+ a week durning harvest. I haul some other AG products from Jan 15th until April, average $6500/ week on 2650 miles. Then I switch to a dry van from 4/1 until 7/31. I am under contract with them, $1000/day min gaurentee, even if I do not turn a wheel, I get paid. I get $3.00 all miles regular freight when miles are past minimun, $4.75 out on Hazmat, $3.00 back. I work Monday thru Friday. Im out Tuesday and Thursday. That runs $6500-$9500/ week. Its good money. Then I take a summer break, week or two. Then I haul DDG's, two loads a day Monday thru Friday and do around $5800 week. I have 3 regular hauls for feed ingrediants, two my own, one for a broker. $3+ mile out, beans back. It averages $1400 per day when I run them. I winter in Cali 11/15 until 1/15 each year. So it can be done, but if getting the truck was a struggle, you have jumped into this life unprepared.

Wish you luck, it sounds like you have the drive. Thats a positive.

And again, talk to others in your area, most will be tight lipped, nobody wants to share. But just watch where they go, see where they picked from if your in line with them. In Kansas there is a boat load of cheep work, Colorado to. Maybe you can look at running from north to south. ND or SD to Oklahoma, Texas, Arkamsas, etc. Then load north. Just time the runs so you can run home.