u.s. Supreme Court

Who have the government the right to control interstate Commerance?

If you order something out of a sears catalog, or off the internet and the Payment is processed in another state, or the package is shipped from another state, you have engaged in interstate commerce......... So does that mean that you have forfeited your constitutional rights, and the police no longer need a warrant to search your home, or car? The laws really are not worth the paper there written on, it is what ever the gooberment says it is at the time. Just like when the government decided to go after trumps lawyer, and violate their rights to client confidentiality. Maybe now trump knows how us trucker feel. All of our rights are being chiseled away, becuase a handful of idiots think government can do no wrong.

Ok. I understand what you are saying. There are other laws on the books that protect you from invasion of privacy meaning search and seasure,invasion of privacy. guilty till proven innocent and many other laws and regulations.

The 14th amendment guarantees equall protection under the law, meaning that the law must be applied equally to everyone, you cannot turn a law into a weapon, and say it only applies to certain groups, or individuals..... By making the case that interstate commerce is the trigger for suspending our constitutional protections, and that it only applies to truck drivers, what has the government just done?.............What about those folks ordering stuff off the internet, who are conducting interstate commerce? Some of whom may be politicians, are you going to tell them that the police no longer need a warrant to search their home or office? And what about those drug dealers who have moved shipments across state lines, and been told by the Supreme Court that they still have constitutional rights, but you truckers don't?

Really, Kevin? They don?t just scribble sh*t on paper and walk away? Do you remember the bowel movement called ObamaCare? To quote Nancy Pelosi, ?We need to pass it so that we can see what?s in it.? The amount of care they put into writing a law is directly proportional to the percentage of the population affected by it and how many irate phone calls Congress expects to receive if they pass it.

Firstoff, thanks for the personal insults, it shows all of us what a classy guy you are. As I understand it, Gunny and alfred kicked your ass out of their sand box, and sent you back over here with your tail between your legs, so now you bash them or anyone associated with them over here, and complain how they would'nt share their seat at the table with you. As for your false accusation about me not being able to follow the law, what is that based on? You have proven once again that you run your mouth without knowing all the facts. I have one of the best safety records in the nation, My DOT# is 1724474 for those of you who would like to check. So what is your slanderous remarks based on kevin, other than my opposition to the ELD mandate? Why dont you talk the same way about Fed ex, UPS or some of the other carriers who opposed it, and applied for a exemption? I dont hear you calling them outlaws, why is that? As for the legal arguements, you have failed to convince me of anything, you have only been able to recite the interstate commerce clause, over and over, all throughout this forum, and demonstrate your allegance to the ATA. For the record, I have never disputed what the interstate commerce clause says. The interstate commerce clause clearly says that the federal government has the authority to regulate commerce, but nowhere in it does it say that it has the right to supercede the rest of the constitution........ The constitution was written at a time when most folks didn't even have a 5th grade education, infact public education did not even exist at the time, so it was written so that anyone could understand it, you didn't need a law degree. This fight is far from over with, there are 26 states that have failed to incorperate into thei state statutes, meaning they cant enforce it.................. Am I a lawyer? No..... Am I a wrong? Time will tell. Is our government corrupt? ASK THE INDIANS.

And there you have it folks, kevin Dingelberry working to improve the image of the american truck Driver once again, demmonstrating his fine social skills, and stimmulating intellect. Bahahahaha

awww its ok davey we know you are trying , its just too bad that a bleating goat makes more sense as well as a stronger case than you can...... i can just hear you now in there in front of the fmcsa in your whiny pouty voice screaming ...yeah well uhhh uhhh what about drug smugglers they are interstate do they should have to have a eld too...waaaaa waaaaa....LMFAO,.... So anyways ..i have been wondering , do you make your tin foil hats out of reynolds wrap or great value ?

Thanks for the compliment and kudos to you for supporting local economy and small business. as far as the cnn quality stuff , i do not make it i just enhance it. Davey boy if you have ever noticed is nothing more than a whiner , a victim the ...they are out to get me type . sure he always has stuff to say , that he reads elsehwere and the embelishes back on this forum , i mean , drug smugglers ..elds... really ?? and the whole constittution farce , its against this and thins amendment but it supports this one bull crap ?... constitutional scholars took it to the constitutional enforcing panel of judges that over see and enforce or throw out these types of matters and they deemed it so well within the confines of jurispdrudence that it was not even worth debating....and thats when it was 50/50 liberal conservative. and then several months ago you had that blowhard jordan in here boasting that he had hired a constitutional law firm and was going to make them famous...lmao. its the law of the land and we...yes ...we...me you him dave and everyone else let it happen by ot doing anything years ago. And another thing as far as all that ...you support the ata crap that peiple like to push when they disagree...all you folks that are fighting the ata are putting more money in thier pockets than anyone else , to help them fight the fight against you. the sad part is , this whole eld / hos thing could be solved quickly and easily ...and the answer to it all is right in front of you as big as day and noone even sees it

Hey Tyrell , thanks for the kind words , apprciate ite , i see you are enjoying the legaization of the wacky tobacky up there in colorado , from your failed attempt at bad humor it seems you may have gotten some really strong hallucinigenic grade stuff. hell i bet you even got the bevis and butthead laugh down pat as well huh ?

i guess i do agree that they will not get it overturned due to invasion of privacy. But at some point this avalanche of rules needs to stop. For every law or rule enstated, there are 3 other laws or rules that go along with it because of legal interpretation. So it gets to be a spider web of rules and laws.

I dont think it makes somebody a whiner to be disgusted with some of this stuff. If theres anybody on this planet that can read the little green dot safety handbook from cover to cover without getting sick, I will buy you a drink. I gaurantee i have the least highway experience of anybody on this forum, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

safe travels

Challenge accepted. I will give it a read. But technically I'm a millennial so how am I possibly supposed to function without Google???

dave dave dave...man i think that aluminum your hat os made of might be soaking into your brain and causing dementia...but ...here little buddy let me clear some things up for you , ok ? ...Now pay attention davey this is going to entail the need for a tiny bit of smarts.....

The FMCSA Federal motor carrier Safety regulations pocket book is in fact a mostly green whith a little bit of white and black book...and on the front of that book...Dave...are you paying attention ...it says....federal motor carrier safety regulations pocket book...ain't that just neat ???....and then under it is also says.....don't lose focus now....as presented by u.s.department of transportaion federal motor carrier safety administrationparts 49,380,382,383,387, 390-397,399, and then under that says in big letters ..updated monthly.... thats reall stuff dave i quoted every word except for jj kleller who publises it for the dot right from the front of that GREEN BOOK. they are for sale in every truck stop ...every company os required to supply thier drivers with a copy. every truck driver should carry one

if you need to davey just google d o t handbook and you can see a picture of one ...i know you function much better with pictures.......

now dave please copy and paste where i said it is " rock solid and CANNOT be overturned " because i never ever said that

as far as me not having operating authority does getting operating authority make someone an instant road scholar fmcsa dot expert ?....if so then there are tons of experts on the road right now...correct ? oh and yes...you are very correct that is my dot number , does it make you feel cosmically orgasmic to know that...... is this where i am supposed to look up and post yours too....lmao because i'm not because i could care less.....

ok so anyways davey , back to the little green book , please humor me and go find chapter 381 in that book and read it and tell me what its about...you can do that can't you ?....i won't ask you to write a report on it because i know how you always break your crayons when you try to write.

oh and yes folks i run intrastate texas.....i have read and studied map 21 and the articles contained therein i have researched most of the projects reports findings and follow ups to congress.....its quite a mind boggling bill.....so mind boggling that i have forgotten alot of it because i lost interst when davey heroes jordan and faram....the lloudmouth phonie brothers made the trucking industry look like fools in washington last dec.

your turn davey......

Heres my deal kevin, Yes i will read what you said to read to understand your point. I am against eld. regardless of an agreement that the government controls interstate commerce. ya i get that. i'm still against it. if the government asked every trucker to sacrifice their first born would you do it, just because they control interstate commerce??? no way.

I am reading these forums to educate myself on the subject of fighting the eld. I like daves posts. and hes not a dick. ive been contacting my SD elected officials, but i'm inexperienced, so i want to read what other people have to say about it. And im crabby today because i didnt asnwer a phone call from an unknown number...that happened to be senator john thune...wanting to talk about it. now i'll have to wait another 3 months to hear back. so i want to be educated so i can explain my point. I gain zero knowledge from your sarcastic frat-boy comments. but i do gain from other peoples discussions. please chill out.

Hey dave..heres that book i was talking about...still think it does not exist ??????

right about what ? that the sky is blue ? that death and taxes are inevitable ? i'm sure theres plenty that you guys are right about but without knowing what you are talking about its hard to say...... on another note.....so you are openly admitting that you have no problem and do willfully alter federal documents ? because when you participate in interstate commerce and fill out and sign a log sheet it becomes a legal federal document. and as far as the "fudging" part goes....would you be ok if your shipper fudged 150 bucks off your load , or maybe that trooper fudged 5 or 10 mph on that ticket ? but anyways , it does'nt matter , what matters is i asked you guys to do something in an effort to help you with your fight and hate for the elog and ya'll had rather argue than anything else...lol