company drivers get what?

May 31, 2017 at 10:23 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't company drivers supposed to get 25% of the gross and not 25% of the net?

Replied on Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:52 PM CST + 4
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. I have paid percentage for years. I'm gonna get ripped for this and I wonder why I respond. I pay a percentage of the gross revenue to my truck, however I don't start a new hire on a floor at 25percent. My proven drivers yes, my newest hires mileage. I'm sick of.the whining. You pay someone in excess of 65-70k and you make a payroll mistake that amounts to ten bucks or your driver uses the most obscure bank on the planet, pay is late. If he used a large bank, no trouble. In today's market paying 25 percent is a stretch. The biggest thing isn't gross, net or anything else. It is understanding exactly what the agreement is and live by it. Second look at the whole program and make sure that your not giving up a good job over something that doesn't really cost you that much. Third I have only seen one or two people worth 25 percent,most aren't. Art Pfluger

Replied on Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:52 PM CST

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Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

I have paid percentage for years. I'm gonna get ripped for this and I wonder why I respond. I pay a percentage of the gross revenue to my truck, however I don't start a new hire on a floor at 25percent. My proven drivers yes, my newest hires mileage. I'm sick of.the whining. You pay someone in excess of 65-70k and you make a payroll mistake that amounts to ten bucks or your driver uses the most obscure bank on the planet, pay is late. If he used a large bank, no trouble. In today's market paying 25 percent is a stretch.
The biggest thing isn't gross, net or anything else. It is understanding exactly what the agreement is and live by it. Second look at the whole program and make sure that your not giving up a good job over something that doesn't really cost you that much. Third I have only seen one or two people worth 25 percent,most aren't.

Art Pfluger

Replied on Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 07:53 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. It will be 25% of what ever you agreed too.

Replied on Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 08:29 AM CST + 3
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "I have paid percentage for years. I'm gonna get ripped for this and I wonder why I respond. I pay a percentage of the gross revenue to my truck, however I don't start a new hire on a floor at 25percent. My proven drivers yes, my newest hires mileage. I'm sick of.the whining. You pay someone in excess of 65-70k and you make a payroll mistake that amounts to ten bucks or your driver uses the most obscure bank on the planet, pay is late. If he used a large bank, no trouble. In today's market paying 25 percent is a stretch. The biggest thing isn't gross, net or anything else. It is understanding exactly what the agreement is and live by it. Second look at the whole program and make sure that your not giving up a good job over something that doesn't really cost you that much. Third I have only seen one or two people worth 25 percent,most aren't. Art Pfluger" We top out at 25% also. Have had many drivers get upset when they apply that we wont start them at 25%. They want 25% because they have x amount years experience but fail to understand they don't have the years here nor do we know their quality of work. I've had one even expect to get 30%. It's also hard for some to understand that 25 or even 30% of a crap rate is crap and 23 or 24% of a great rate is better than 30% of crap. It's all about how much you take home but too many get focused on the % pay.

Replied on Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 08:29 AM CST

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Quote: "I have paid percentage for years. I'm gonna get ripped for this and I wonder why I respond. I pay a percentage of the gross revenue to my truck, however I don't start a new hire on a floor at 25percent. My proven drivers yes, my newest hires mileage. I'm sick of.the whining. You pay someone in excess of 65-70k and you make a payroll mistake that amounts to ten bucks or your driver uses the most obscure bank on the planet, pay is late. If he used a large bank, no trouble. In today's market paying 25 percent is a stretch. The biggest thing isn't gross, net or anything else. It is understanding exactly what the agreement is and live by it. Second look at the whole program and make sure that your not giving up a good job over something that doesn't really cost you that much. Third I have only seen one or two people worth 25 percent,most aren't. Art Pfluger"

We top out at 25% also. Have had many drivers get upset when they apply that we wont start them at 25%. They want 25% because they have x amount years experience but fail to understand they don't have the years here nor do we know their quality of work. I've had one even expect to get 30%. It's also hard for some to understand that 25 or even 30% of a crap rate is crap and 23 or 24% of a great rate is better than 30% of crap. It's all about how much you take home but too many get focused on the % pay.

Replied on Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 07:47 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. For years I paid percentage,but with a cap on the bottom and a cap on the top. If a driver was getting 25% but the load only paid $1,20 a mile in a crap area I paid him $.35 a mile, but if the load was a great rate,say $4.00 a mile I capped his pay at $.50 a mile. Be it right or wrong that is what I did,didn't penalize the driver when I sent him to a crappy area,but recouped my losses when rate was great. Bottom line,a great driver is worth more then a company can pay him, a bad driver costs the company. Find a company that you like and they like you and life willbe good

Replied on Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 07:47 PM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

For years I paid percentage,but with a cap on the bottom and a cap on the top. If a driver was getting 25% but the load only paid $1,20 a mile in a crap area I paid him $.35 a mile, but if the load was a great rate,say $4.00 a mile I capped his pay at $.50 a mile. Be it right or wrong that is what I did,didn't penalize the driver when I sent him to a crappy area,but recouped my losses when rate was great. Bottom line,a great driver is worth more then a company can pay him, a bad driver costs the company. Find a company that you like and they like you and life willbe good

Replied on Fri, Jun 02, 2017 at 08:16 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Ripped??? Why would that be? For telling it like it is? I have had applicants tell me they have been driving for 10 plus years and after I take them on a test drive I have told more than one to not ever say they have been driving for that long because they drive like they have never driven before much less 10 years!!! Oh yes, they wanted 25 %.

Replied on Sat, Jun 03, 2017 at 11:35 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Takes 30% to hire a "good" driver and to keep him Thats much cheaper than hiring a moron at 25% that tears everthing up

Replied on Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 12:37 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Sorry I disagree. You can throw money at this and then you hit the point where you exist only to provide jobs to people. At 25 percent I have guys grossing over $70,000. They're home regularly. There is a point where you draw the line. I pay way more than almost anyone in our area. Art Pfluger

Replied on Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 10:12 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Art you must have real good freight rates. At $2.00 a running mile, paying a driver 25%, he is going to have to drive 140,000 miles a year to make $70,000.00

Replied on Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 09:33 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. I have good rates and my people don't run 140000 miles. This why responding anymore to this forum just sucks. Everyone knows more than anyone else. Art Pfluger

Replied on Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 09:45 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Also I never said all my guys make the same. This is what the non whiners can do. They understand if you want something there is onlyone way to make it happen. I've had guys that couldn't do $50000.

Replied on Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 08:22 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. They get what ever they want, or else they quit, and you get to explain to the banker why you can't make your payments, and someone else will end up with your customer. Everywhere you look you see iron parked right now. The fact is that most carriers out there have already peaked, and now they are on the downward slide. The drivers are in control right now, and they know it. They are able to play the for hire carriers against the private ones. It is a bidding war for drivers at this point, and if you make your money off of the product you sell, rather than off the truck (such as a lumber yard or cement company) than you are able to outbid the rest of us, and poach our drivers away from us. I know of several companies that have started buying their own trucks at this point, and are phasing out carriers at this point .

Replied on Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 08:22 PM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

They get what ever they want, or else they quit, and you get to explain to the banker why you can't make your payments, and someone else will end up with your customer. Everywhere you look you see iron parked right now. The fact is that most carriers out there have already peaked, and now they are on the downward slide. The drivers are in control right now, and they know it. They are able to play the for hire carriers against the private ones. It is a bidding war for drivers at this point, and if you make your money off of the product you sell, rather than off the truck (such as a lumber yard or cement company) than you are able to outbid the rest of us, and poach our drivers away from us. I know of several companies that have started buying their own trucks at this point, and are phasing out carriers at this point .

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