Livestock hauler exemption.

Sep 14, 2017 at 02:56 PM CST + 4 - 2
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Just read the story about livestock haulers want exemption from ELD. Why? I have the perfect answer. Put two people in the truck , and charge accordingly. When I haul a load of grain into a flour mill and have to wait for 14 hours depending on what time of the day I get there. Think the livestock hauler cares? I'm sure not. At least he gets his load off in a reasonable time.

Replied on Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 03:51 PM CST + 2 - 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. If only it was that easy

Replied on Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 08:31 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. I don't know much about elds, I have not used one yet. Sounds like i will have to start in Dec. I was just wondering if the livestock carriers had a different HOS LAWS THAT THEY CAN GO BY. NOT TRYING TO START ANY ARGUMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND I DO NOT ENVY LIVESTOCK WORKERS! ITS HARD DISCUSTING AT TIMES AND SMELL TERRIBLE WORK. I DID HAUL PROPANE MANY YEARS AGO TO SOME TURKEY FARMS AND WE WERE EXEMPT AT TIMES WHEN THE TEMPERATURE FELL BELOW A CERTAIN DEGREE. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND DOT HAD DIFFERENT RULES FOR HOS SERVICE FOR LIVESTOCK HAULERS? I AM NOT LOOKING TO GET INTO THIS BUSINESS I ALREADY HAVE 3 JOBS AND HAVE MY WHOLE LIFE! I FOR OTHERS PLEASE KEEP YOUR ELD OPINIONS TO YOURSELVES! I WAS JUST WONDERING IF SOMEBODY COULD ANSWER THE HOS QUESTION.

Replied on Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 08:31 PM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

I don't know much about elds, I have not used one yet. Sounds like i will have to start in Dec. I was just wondering if the livestock carriers had a different HOS LAWS THAT THEY CAN GO BY. NOT TRYING TO START ANY ARGUMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND I DO NOT ENVY LIVESTOCK WORKERS! ITS HARD DISCUSTING AT TIMES AND SMELL TERRIBLE WORK. I DID HAUL PROPANE MANY YEARS AGO TO SOME TURKEY FARMS AND WE WERE EXEMPT AT TIMES WHEN THE TEMPERATURE FELL BELOW A CERTAIN DEGREE. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND DOT HAD DIFFERENT RULES FOR HOS SERVICE FOR LIVESTOCK HAULERS? I AM NOT LOOKING TO GET INTO THIS BUSINESS I ALREADY HAVE 3 JOBS AND HAVE MY WHOLE LIFE! I FOR OTHERS PLEASE KEEP YOUR ELD OPINIONS TO YOURSELVES! I WAS JUST WONDERING IF SOMEBODY COULD ANSWER THE HOS QUESTION.

Replied on Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 07:10 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Nope. They follow the same rules as everyone else.

Replied on Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 07:13 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "If only it was that easy " Why isn't it that easy? The freight world has done it for a long time. Cows and pigs are no different than my produce and meat. Its time sensitive freight. If it cant get there on time with 1 driver you put a second in the truck and there is no stopping

Replied on Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 07:19 AM CST + 2
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Why isn't it that easy? The freight world has done it for a long time. Cows and pigs are no different than my produce and meat. Its time sensitive freight. If it cant get there on time with 1 driver you put a second in the truck and there is no stopping" Not just anyone can haul livestock, over half of the drivers on the road today could not do it. And there is a huge difference between your produce and meat, can't just pull over and take a nap with livestock on.

Replied on Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 07:19 AM CST

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Quote: "Why isn't it that easy? The freight world has done it for a long time. Cows and pigs are no different than my produce and meat. Its time sensitive freight. If it cant get there on time with 1 driver you put a second in the truck and there is no stopping"

Not just anyone can haul livestock, over half of the drivers on the road today could not do it. And there is a huge difference between your produce and meat, can't just pull over and take a nap with livestock on.

Replied on Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 09:35 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. If a load of cattle needs to be hauled 800 miles andElogs allowed you to haul them to drive 600 miles what do you do with the cattle? Unload them and rest them right ? Now use your imagination and think where would you unload every cattle truck on the road every 14 hours

Replied on Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 09:45 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Not just anyone can haul livestock, over half of the drivers on the road today could not do it. And there is a huge difference between your produce and meat, can't just pull over and take a nap with livestock on." Over half the drivers on the road now shouldnt be driving anything. There is no difference in what i haul to cattle. If a load has to go 1000 miles and be there before its possible for 1 driver to get it there its the same thing

Replied on Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 09:45 AM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Quote: "Not just anyone can haul livestock, over half of the drivers on the road today could not do it. And there is a huge difference between your produce and meat, can't just pull over and take a nap with livestock on."

Over half the drivers on the road now shouldnt be driving anything. There is no difference in what i haul to cattle. If a load has to go 1000 miles and be there before its possible for 1 driver to get it there its the same thing

Replied on Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 09:47 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. And tell me how before with paper logs you could log 800 miles straight through when an e log you say can only do 600

Replied on Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. for the record I don't care if you do it legal or not but you guys jumping all over the internet yelling and screaming about needing to be able to get the cows to where they're going no matter how far it is isn't the right way to go about telling the government that you don't want an e log in your truck. You wouldn't tell a cop this afternoon that asked for your log book that I don't need a logbook I have to get these cows to where they're going. Basically that's what you guys are saying right now and it's liable to come back and bite you in the ass

Replied on Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

for the record I don't care if you do it legal or not but you guys jumping all over the internet yelling and screaming about needing to be able to get the cows to where they're going no matter how far it is isn't the right way to go about telling the government that you don't want an e log in your truck. You wouldn't tell a cop this afternoon that asked for your log book that I don't need a logbook I have to get these cows to where they're going. Basically that's what you guys are saying right now and it's liable to come back and bite you in the ass

Replied on Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:43 AM CST + 1 - 1
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Go buy a bulk rack and show us how it's done then.

Replied on Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:43 AM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Go buy a bulk rack and show us how it's done then.

Replied on Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 01:17 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. They will be exempt, there already talking about it, the guys doing it never have ran legal, most are O/O and won't team. It is not like a reefer or any other product, thats the most retarded thing Iv ever heard. You can't unload them in different places every 11 hrs do to deases

Replied on Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 08:28 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Quote: "Over half the drivers on the road now shouldnt be driving anything. There is no difference in what i haul to cattle. If a load has to go 1000 miles and be there before its possible for 1 driver to get it there its the same thing" i am not going to argue with you about the teaming two man part. that should probably be done. THIS TYPE OF HAULING IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE THOUGH! THESE ARE LIVE ANIMALS! THEY CAN HURT YOU AND EVEN KILL YOU HAPPEN TO GET IN THE WRONG SPOT WHILE LOADING OR UNLOADING! HOGS WILL EVEN EAT YOU IF THEY ARE HUNGRY! OR EAT EACH OTHER! THEY CAN BECOME EXTREMELY VICIOUS AND VIOLENT WHEN THIRSTY, SAME GOES FOR CATTLE AND HORSES. YOU HAVE TO BE EXTEMELY CAREFUL WHEN TAKING OFF AT AN INTERSECTION QAND NOT JERK THE LOAD OR YOU COULD HAVE CATTLE GO DOWN AND GET TRAMPLED AND YOU HAVE AN EXTEME MESS ON YOUR HANDS ! SAME GOES IF YOU BRAKE TO HARD! THE ARGUMENT IS NOT ELDS OR PAPERLOGS! ITS HOS LAWS AND FLEXIBILITY!

Replied on Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 08:28 PM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Quote: "Over half the drivers on the road now shouldnt be driving anything. There is no difference in what i haul to cattle. If a load has to go 1000 miles and be there before its possible for 1 driver to get it there its the same thing"

i am not going to argue with you about the teaming two man part. that should probably be done. THIS TYPE OF HAULING IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE THOUGH! THESE ARE LIVE ANIMALS! THEY CAN HURT YOU AND EVEN KILL YOU HAPPEN TO GET IN THE WRONG SPOT WHILE LOADING OR UNLOADING! HOGS WILL EVEN EAT YOU IF THEY ARE HUNGRY! OR EAT EACH OTHER! THEY CAN BECOME EXTREMELY VICIOUS AND VIOLENT WHEN THIRSTY, SAME GOES FOR CATTLE AND HORSES. YOU HAVE TO BE EXTEMELY CAREFUL WHEN TAKING OFF AT AN INTERSECTION QAND NOT JERK THE LOAD OR YOU COULD HAVE CATTLE GO DOWN AND GET TRAMPLED AND YOU HAVE AN EXTEME MESS ON YOUR HANDS ! SAME GOES IF YOU BRAKE TO HARD! THE ARGUMENT IS NOT ELDS OR PAPERLOGS! ITS HOS LAWS AND FLEXIBILITY!

Replied on Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 10:29 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. LIVESTOCK hauling is a world of its own... It's NOT like like hauling anything else... NOTHING compares... I'd agree with the post above... 85% of the drivers today couldn't make it hauling cattle... Your not fighting the DOT or your LOG book.... your fighting to make sure they ALL arrive to the destination ALIVE... Just sit and talk to a cattle hauler over a cup of coffee and you'll have a newfound sense that it's a job that most could do...

Replied on Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 10:29 PM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

LIVESTOCK hauling is a world of its own... It's NOT like like hauling anything else... NOTHING compares... I'd agree with the post above... 85% of the drivers today couldn't make it hauling cattle... Your not fighting the DOT or your LOG book.... your fighting to make sure they ALL arrive to the destination ALIVE... Just sit and talk to a cattle hauler over a cup of coffee and you'll have a newfound sense that it's a job that most could do...

Replied on Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 10:31 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. and that's exactly why they aren't getting just $2.00 a mile either... I'm quite sure it's going to have to be an exemption for livestock haulers... or either the company would have to have team drivers...

Replied on Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 09:56 PM CST
Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.	Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member. Live stock haulers are real truckers, because they know how to negotiate. You never see them whining about the the price of fuel, or rates. They drive top of the line equipment, because they can afford to. They take pride in what they do, there trucks are second to none. They never complain about hard work, because they live for it. They don't expect others to fight their battles for them. They know how to stick together, and function as a team, which is why they got a exemption from ELD's for the next year ( which will probably become permanent)... They are the special forces of truckers, and we should stand up and salute them, rather than attack and demonize them.

Replied on Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 09:56 PM CST

Posted by a private FlatLoads.com member.

Live stock haulers are real truckers, because they know how to negotiate. You never see them whining about the the price of fuel, or rates. They drive top of the line equipment, because they can afford to. They take pride in what they do, there trucks are second to none. They never complain about hard work, because they live for it. They don't expect others to fight their battles for them. They know how to stick together, and function as a team, which is why they got a exemption from ELD's for the next year ( which will probably become permanent)... They are the special forces of truckers, and we should stand up and salute them, rather than attack and demonize them.

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